Who Killed Nori Amaya After Her Halloween Night Out?
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Hello, crime genre Hello, crime genre enthusiasts! I am the host, Ashley enthusiasts! I am the host, Ashley enthusiasts! I am the host, Ashley Flowers Flowers Flowers Britt. The Britt. The story I will share with you today is about Washington D.C. in 2009. This is the Salsa Queen murder case that occurred in... Salsa Queen murder case that occurred in... It is an incident that has tormented me for a long time. At first, I thought the investigators would be able to solve it easily thought the investigators would be able to solve it easily . Because there was surveillance camera footage . Because there was surveillance camera footage , and the victim's last , and the victim's last , and the victim's last movements were also clearly shown movements were also clearly shown movements were also clearly shown . However, there was one big . However, there was one big . However, there was one big problem. The problem. The problem. The point is that it was Halloween point is that it was Halloween point is that it was Halloween . The club . The club . The club was crowded with people, and the streets were was crowded with people, and the streets were was crowded with people, and the streets were full of people wearing masks and costumes full of people wearing masks and costumes full of people wearing masks and costumes . So, it was difficult to accurately identify . So, it was difficult to accurately identify . So, it was difficult to accurately identify who even the person captured on camera was who even the person captured on camera was . . Was it just a simple coincidence? Or Was it just a simple coincidence? Or was it a meticulous plan to live in hiding without being noticed? It seems the culprit knew exactly what they were doing. He took clues from the crime scene that seems the culprit knew exactly what they were doing. He took clues from the crime scene that could track him down could track him down . However, by doing so, they might have . However, by doing so, they might have . However, by doing so, they might have actually left the most important actually left the most important actually left the most important clue clue . My . My . My reporting team and I reporting team and I reporting team and I conducted an in-depth investigation into this clue, which has never been reported before.
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conducted an in-depth investigation into this clue, which has never been reported before. conducted an in-depth investigation into this clue, which has never been reported before. And I believe that with just a single tip, And I believe that with just a single tip, And I believe that with just a single tip, this case can be solved this case can be solved this case can be solved . Now, . Now, . Now, crime enthusiasts, please crime enthusiasts, please crime enthusiasts, please listen carefully, especially listen carefully, especially listen carefully, especially Washington D.C. Please be Washington D.C. Please be Washington D.C. Please be sure to share this episode with your friends who live in the area sure to share this episode with your friends who live in the area sure to share this episode with your friends who live in the area . This story is the . This story is the story of Nori Amaya story of Nori Amaya story of Nori Amaya . The story begins on the . The story begins on the . The story begins on the morning of Monday, November 2, 2009, as Carlos morning of Monday, November 2, 2009, as Carlos morning of Monday, November 2, 2009, as Carlos Amaya goes to work Amaya goes to work Amaya goes to work . That week was already off to a rough . That week was already off to a rough . That week was already off to a rough start start . Carlos is the chef and co-owner . Carlos is the chef and co-owner . Carlos is the chef and co-owner of a famous Italian restaurant in Washington, D.C., and of a famous Italian restaurant in Washington, D.C., and runs the restaurant with his sister. Despite runs the restaurant with his sister. Despite having hosted a grand party the night before having hosted a grand party the night before having hosted a grand party the night before , he slept for only a few hours, , he slept for only a few hours, went out to the restaurant early in the morning to went out to the restaurant early in the morning to light the fire in the oven, and began light the fire in the oven, and began light the fire in the oven, and began preparing a large-scale catering order for as many as 170 people preparing a large-scale catering order for as many as 170 people preparing a large-scale catering order for as many as 170 people . However, when we . However, when we called the customer to say we would arrive around 10 a.m., the customer replied, "No, no, no, no. "No, no, no, no. "No, no, no, no. Your sister didn't check the order Your sister didn't check the order Your sister didn't check the order . So we were going to . So we were going to call her to call her to call her to tell her the order was canceled tell her the order was canceled tell her the order was canceled ." He ." He ." He said. I'm said. I'm said. I'm really angry because of my younger sister really angry because of my younger sister really angry because of my younger sister .
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. . Carlos said that. His 38- Carlos said that. His 38- Carlos said that. His 38- year-old younger sister, Noria Maya, is in year-old younger sister, Noria Maya, is in year-old younger sister, Noria Maya, is in charge of the other half of the business charge of the other half of the business charge of the other half of the business . Carlos is . Carlos is . Carlos is the chef, and Noria is the chef, and Noria is the chef, and Noria is in charge of serving the guests. Of the two siblings, in charge of serving the guests. Of the two siblings, in charge of serving the guests. Of the two siblings, Noria has a personality that gets along well with people, Noria has a personality that gets along well with people, Noria has a personality that gets along well with people, so they are a so they are a so they are a good match. So good match. So good match. So usually it works well. But usually it works well. But something happened to Noria over the past few days. something happened to Noria over the past few days. Noria did Noria did Noria did n't show up for the private party preparations she had promised the day before n't show up for the private party preparations she had promised the day before . Carlos . Carlos knew that Noria was going through a tough time after their breakup, knew that Noria was going through a tough time after their breakup, so he tried to be understanding to some extent so he tried to be understanding to some extent so he tried to be understanding to some extent . But . But . But business isn't going well anymore, and business isn't going well anymore, and business isn't going well anymore, and Carlos ca Carlos ca Carlos ca n't stand it anymore. n't stand it anymore. n't stand it anymore. I want to call Noria and give her a good scolding. The problem is that I ca I want to call Noria and give her a good scolding. The problem is that I ca n't make a call because I have Noria's cell phone. Two days ago, on a n't make a call because I have Noria's cell phone. Two days ago, on a Saturday—that is, Halloween— Saturday—that is, Halloween— Saturday—that is, Halloween— Noria left her cell phone in the taxi she took that night, Noria left her cell phone in the taxi she took that night, Noria left her cell phone in the taxi she took that night, or to be precise, around dawn on Sunday or to be precise, around dawn on Sunday . The taxi driver found the cell phone and called found the cell phone and called found the cell phone and called Nori's mom a little while later Nori's mom a little while later Nori's mom a little while later . Nori's mother . Nori's mother told Carlos to meet the taxi driver and bring the cell phone. But told Carlos to meet the taxi driver and bring the cell phone. But why did Carlos still have his cell phone why did Carlos still have his cell phone ? It is ? It is because I thought I would be able to meet Nori at work that very day because I thought I would be able to meet Nori at work that very day . Carlos . Carlos . Carlos tried to give Nori his cell phone right away tried to give Nori his cell phone right away , but Nori didn't show up. Just , but Nori didn't show up. Just , but Nori didn't show up. Just think about it, it was 2009 think about it, it was 2009 think about it, it was 2009 , and back then, there were plenty of people who knew , and back then, there were plenty of people who knew , and back then, there were plenty of people who knew how to get through a day or so without a cell phone how to get through a day or so without a cell phone . It was especially so because Nori tends to lose his phone unusually often.
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tends to lose his phone unusually often. Eventually, Carlos, unable to call Nori, Eventually, Carlos, unable to call Nori, decided to go to Nori's apartment. I happened to have some time left because of a massive catering order for as many as 170 people time left because of a massive catering order for as many as 170 people . Carlos arrived . Carlos arrived . Carlos arrived at Nori's apartment, which was about 10 minutes away, at Nori's apartment, which was about 10 minutes away, stopped by the front desk to register as a visitor, and headed to Nori's home on the 11th floor. I knocked and headed to Nori's home on the 11th floor. I knocked and checked the door, but it was locked checked the door, but it was locked checked the door, but it was locked . So Carlos crouched down and . So Carlos crouched down and peered through the mailbox hole. peered through the mailbox hole. I could see inside, but the lights were off, so the I could see inside, but the lights were off, so the I could see inside, but the lights were off, so the apartment was completely apartment was completely apartment was completely dark. " dark. " Yeah, Nori is definitely having a Yeah, Nori is definitely having a Yeah, Nori is definitely having a hard time because of the breakup. She's hard time because of the breakup. She's hard time because of the breakup. She's probably still asleep, probably still asleep, probably still asleep, or maybe she just doesn't want to talk to anyone right now or maybe she just doesn't want to talk to anyone right now ." I thought so. ." I thought so. So he decided to give Nori a little more So he decided to give Nori a little more So he decided to give Nori a little more time. I time. I thought that if he didn't come to the restaurant by dinner time, I would have to make Nori come to his senses, even if it meant using a harsher method thought that if he didn't come to the restaurant by dinner time, I would have to make Nori come to his senses, even if it meant using a harsher method . But what . But what . But what happened? happened? happened? Nori did not appear. As the Nori did not appear. As the Nori did not appear. As the Monday deadline approached, Monday deadline approached, Monday deadline approached, Carlos's frustration Carlos's frustration turned into fear. He turned into fear. He turned into fear. He tried calling a few places tried calling a few places . No one . No one . No one in the family, including Nori's mother who usually talks to Nori every day, in the family, including Nori's mother who usually talks to Nori every day, received any contact from Nori. So received any contact from Nori. So that night, Carlos and his that night, Carlos and his that night, Carlos and his sister Liz sister Liz sister Liz went together to the building where Nori lived.
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went together to the building where Nori lived. went together to the building where Nori lived. This time, it wasn't just a simple knock This time, it wasn't just a simple knock This time, it wasn't just a simple knock . Carlos and . Carlos and . Carlos and Liz said they asked the security guard to open Nori's Liz said they asked the security guard to open Nori's Liz said they asked the security guard to open Nori's door door door . The security guard . The security guard . The security guard escorted her to the living room. escorted her to the living room. escorted her to the living room. Only the bathroom light was on, and Only the bathroom light was on, and Only the bathroom light was on, and everything was still dark. everything was still dark. everything was still dark. So Liz So Liz So Liz turned on the light switch. On the sofa lay Nori's turned on the light switch. On the sofa lay Nori's turned on the light switch. On the sofa lay Nori's Halloween costume, a black dress Halloween costume, a black dress and a Venetian-style mask with feather decorations, but and a Venetian-style mask with feather decorations, but Nori was Nori was not visible. Everything not visible. Everything not visible. Everything seemed to be in its place. So seemed to be in its place. So seemed to be in its place. So Carlos called Nori. It was as Carlos called Nori. It was as Carlos called Nori. It was as if to give Nori time to come out or if to give Nori time to come out or if to give Nori time to come out or get dressed properly get dressed properly get dressed properly . When he finally . When he finally entered the room, it was still entered the room, it was still entered the room, it was still dark, but he could see Nori dark, but he could see Nori dark, but he could see Nori lying on the bed with the blanket half-covered lying on the bed with the blanket half-covered lying on the bed with the blanket half-covered . And then . And then . And then everything everything everything happened in an instant. He turned on the light. happened in an instant. He turned on the light. happened in an instant. He turned on the light. Nori's hair Nori's hair and one hand were slightly visible under the blanket. As I got and one hand were slightly visible under the blanket. As I got and one hand were slightly visible under the blanket. As I got closer, a closer, a closer, a bruise around the neck caught my eye. bruise around the neck caught my eye. bruise around the neck caught my eye. Carlos threw off the blanket, and Carlos threw off the blanket, and his sister was his sister was his sister was pale all over. Since I was pale all over. Since I was pale all over. Since I was wearing only black underwear, the wearing only black underwear, the wearing only black underwear, the bruises all over my body were clearly bruises all over my body were clearly bruises all over my body were clearly visible. However, Carlos visible. However, Carlos acts as if he keeps calling her name and begging her to please wake up.
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acts as if he keeps calling her name and begging her to please wake up. As you can tell from her appearance, such behavior is As you can tell from her appearance, such behavior is not in line with his mindset, not in line with his mindset, even though. He is shocked and even though. He is shocked and even though. He is shocked and desperately desperately desperately wants to see her reaction. So wants to see her reaction. So wants to see her reaction. So he cannot accept the fact that she is dead he cannot accept the fact that she is dead he cannot accept the fact that she is dead , and he even hits her as if to prove to himself that it is , and he even hits her as if to prove to himself that it is , and he even hits her as if to prove to himself that it is not the reality before his eyes not the reality before his eyes . Just . Just then, Liz enters the room and then, Liz enters the room and then, Liz enters the room and reaches out to touch Nori reaches out to touch Nori , but her skin is so , but her skin is so , but her skin is so cold that Liz is startled and steps cold that Liz is startled and steps cold that Liz is startled and steps back. Liz and back. Liz and back. Liz and Carlos grab each other and Carlos grab each other and slump to the floor, and the security guard slump to the floor, and the security guard calls 911. At 9:11 PM calls 911. At 9:11 PM calls 911. At 9:11 PM , the apartment is filled with DC police , the apartment is filled with DC police , the apartment is filled with DC police . The detective in charge of the case . The detective in charge of the case . The detective in charge of the case is Tony Patterson. is Tony Patterson. is Tony Patterson. Fortunately, Detective Patterson has retired, Fortunately, Detective Patterson has retired, Fortunately, Detective Patterson has retired, so we were able to so we were able to hear his story in this episode hear his story in this episode hear his story in this episode . Actually, I'm not sure if . Actually, I'm not sure if . Actually, I'm not sure if this case could have been solved without Detective Patterson this case could have been solved without Detective Patterson this case could have been solved without Detective Patterson . The . The . The DC Metro Police Department DC Metro Police Department DC Metro Police Department denied our request for information disclosure, and although the newly denied our request for information disclosure, and although the newly denied our request for information disclosure, and although the newly assigned MPD detective spoke with us, he did assigned MPD detective spoke with us, he did not provide an in-depth explanation. Still, I appreciate you providing some information and confirming the details, but it seems we will have to rely on Detective Patterson's memory for most of what we know about this case.
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seems we will have to rely on Detective Patterson's memory for most of what we know about this case. If we go back to that night at Nori's apartment, If we go back to that night at Nori's apartment, If we go back to that night at Nori's apartment, Detective Patterson Detective Patterson Detective Patterson had already worked at the MPD for decades, had already worked at the MPD for decades, had already worked at the MPD for decades, spending a significant portion of that time in the Homicide Division spending a significant portion of that time in the Homicide Division spending a significant portion of that time in the Homicide Division . So, I know exactly . So, I know exactly . So, I know exactly what to look for when I arrive at the murder scene what to look for when I arrive at the murder scene what to look for when I arrive at the murder scene . The door . The door was locked, was locked, was locked, there were no signs of forced entry, and the apartment was there were no signs of forced entry, and the apartment was not in a mess. Actually, it did not in a mess. Actually, it did n't seem like the valuables were missing. n't seem like the valuables were missing. n't seem like the valuables were missing. Nori's wallet was also still on the sofa Nori's wallet was also still on the sofa Nori's wallet was also still on the sofa . Therefore, it was . Therefore, it was . Therefore, it was not a simple robbery case not a simple robbery case not a simple robbery case . It appears that someone . It appears that someone came here with the intention of raping or murdering Nori, or both came here with the intention of raping or murdering Nori, or both . In the end, what was . In the end, what was used to strangle her to death was a used to strangle her to death was a used to strangle her to death was a string about 1/8 inch long string about 1/8 inch long string about 1/8 inch long . However, the autopsy . However, the autopsy . However, the autopsy results results results showed that she had resisted. There were showed that she had resisted. There were showed that she had resisted. There were wounds around the mouth and jaw, and a wounds around the mouth and jaw, and a wounds around the mouth and jaw, and a laceration on the inside of the lower lip laceration on the inside of the lower lip laceration on the inside of the lower lip . There was bleeding on the back of the scalp . There was bleeding on the back of the scalp . There was bleeding on the back of the scalp , , , bruising on the upper right chest and both breasts, and bruising on the upper right chest and both breasts, and many bruises and abrasions on the arms, right hand, and right leg many bruises and abrasions on the arms, right hand, and right leg .
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. . Detective Patterson remembers the bruise on her arm Detective Patterson remembers the bruise on her arm . He . He considered the possibility that someone had pinned her to the bed and subdued her while she was resisting. There were also lacerations and bruises on Nori's genital area. One of the few pieces of information obtained from the new investigator is that there is a possibility that Nori was sexually assaulted. possibility that Nori was sexually assaulted. However, the culprit was premeditated and However, the culprit was premeditated and appears to have had at least basic knowledge of forensic science. The autopsy results showed appears to have had at least basic knowledge of forensic science. The autopsy results showed no semen was found, and since Nori's no semen was found, and since Nori's no semen was found, and since Nori's fingernails, which she always grew long, fingernails, which she always grew long, fingernails, which she always grew long, were completely cut off, there were no were completely cut off, there were no were completely cut off, there were no fingernail fragments from which to obtain useful clues fingernail fragments from which to obtain useful clues fingernail fragments from which to obtain useful clues . It is highly likely that the culprit, . It is highly likely that the culprit, . It is highly likely that the culprit, Brett, took the fingernails Brett, took the fingernails Brett, took the fingernails . Because there wasn't a . Because there wasn't a . Because there wasn't a single fingernail in Nori's apartment single fingernail in Nori's apartment single fingernail in Nori's apartment . I have so many . I have so many . I have so many questions. Did questions. Did the culprit bring the nail clippers themselves the culprit bring the nail clippers themselves the culprit bring the nail clippers themselves ? Or ? Or ? Or did they use Nori's nail clippers? The did they use Nori's nail clippers? The did they use Nori's nail clippers? The detective in charge said he did not know what cut Nori's fingernails or detective in charge said he did not know what cut Nori's fingernails or detective in charge said he did not know what cut Nori's fingernails or what what strangled her strangled her strangled her . It could have been some kind . It could have been some kind . It could have been some kind of cable of cable of cable . We examined the USB cable in Nori's room, but . We examined the USB cable in Nori's room, but . We examined the USB cable in Nori's room, but Nori's Nori's Nori's DNA was not detected. Whether the DNA was not detected. Whether the DNA was not detected. Whether the culprit brought it or found it culprit brought it or found it culprit brought it or found it , they probably took that along as well , they probably took that along as well , they probably took that along as well .
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. . Judging by how cautious he is, it is clear that the culprit Judging by how cautious he is, it is clear that the culprit has either watched a lot of dramas like CSI or has has either watched a lot of dramas like CSI or has committed similar crimes before committed similar crimes before committed similar crimes before . . . Personally, I do Personally, I do n't think they were incredibly brilliant planners. I think the general public probably n't think they were incredibly brilliant planners. I think the general public probably knew as much as they saw in dramas like CSI knew as much as they saw in dramas like CSI knew as much as they saw in dramas like CSI . You'd think . You'd think . You'd think the police would know that they extract DNA from semen or fingernail fragments the police would know that they extract DNA from semen or fingernail fragments . I think the culprit would have been more careful if that hadn't been the case. The culprit did n't get rid of all the evidence, did they? The autopsy results showed that DNA from an unidentified male was collected from two parts of Nori's body unidentified male was collected from two parts of Nori's body . . I heard that contact DNA was found in the chest or breast area . . Is it DNA from actual contact, or from saliva Is it DNA from actual contact, or from saliva ? The ? The ? The autopsy report does autopsy report does not include the test results. It only states which not include the test results. It only states which not include the test results. It only states which part was harvested part was harvested part was harvested . Whether saliva was mixed in could have been . Whether saliva was mixed in could have been confirmed in other cases as well confirmed in other cases as well . The police did . The police did not provide details. They just said it was contact DNA not provide details. They just said it was contact DNA . However, Nori . However, Nori 's older brother, Carlos, is 's older brother, Carlos, is quite deeply involved in the investigation quite deeply involved in the investigation quite deeply involved in the investigation , and he said that he heard the term "contact DNA," which is like DNA , and he said that he heard the term "contact DNA," which is like DNA , and he said that he heard the term "contact DNA," which is like DNA obtained through direct skin-to-skin contact obtained through direct skin-to-skin contact . A normal . A normal person would think it is DNA taken from a hand, but person would think it is DNA taken from a hand, but if that is the case, it is truly surprising if that is the case, it is truly surprising . This is because the police did . This is because the police did not find any fingerprints presumed to belong to the murderer on Nori's body or in the apartment. But
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not find any fingerprints presumed to belong to the murderer on Nori's body or in the apartment. But what would fingerprints be needed for? You what would fingerprints be needed for? You just need DNA, right? Right? just need DNA, right? Right? just need DNA, right? Right? Of course, it is useful if you can just find someone to compare yourself to Of course, it is useful if you can just find someone to compare yourself to . This sample was in good enough condition to be registered in the CODIS system, but the good enough condition to be registered in the CODIS system, but the system system system could not find a matching item. could not find a matching item. Then, who Then, who was at Nori's apartment and when? The was at Nori's apartment and when? The was at Nori's apartment and when? The time of death is time of death is time of death is not stated in the autopsy report. This not stated in the autopsy report. This is one of the first mysteries Detective Patterson has to solve. Because before verifying the alibi is one of the first mysteries Detective Patterson has to solve. Because before verifying the alibi , we need to , we need to , we need to identify the critical timeline for the investigation identify the critical timeline for the investigation identify the critical timeline for the investigation . Fortunately, the . Fortunately, the . Fortunately, the apartment building where Nori lived was apartment building where Nori lived was apartment building where Nori lived was quite well-secured. It was quite well-secured. It was one of the largest apartment complexes in Washington, D.C. There were over 1,100 apartment units in a 12-story building over 1,100 apartment units in a 12-story building over 1,100 apartment units in a 12-story building , so it was the size of a small city , so it was the size of a small city , so it was the size of a small city . . . Yes, so residents Yes, so residents Yes, so residents must scan their key cards when entering and exiting, must scan their key cards when entering and exiting, staff are stationed at the front desk 24 hours a day, and visitors staff are stationed at the front desk 24 hours a day, and visitors must leave a record of their entry and exit. There were must leave a record of their entry and exit. There were must leave a record of their entry and exit. There were at least six cameras installed in the lobby alone at least six cameras installed in the lobby alone , and there were more cameras throughout the building , and there were more cameras throughout the building and in the parking lot and in the parking lot and in the parking lot . Naturally, . Naturally, . Naturally, Detective Patterson thought that thanks to all these surveillance Detective Patterson thought that thanks to all these surveillance Detective Patterson thought that thanks to all these surveillance cameras, he would be able to easily solve Nori's case cameras, he would be able to easily solve Nori's case . He immediately . He immediately looked at the Halloween night video looked at the Halloween night video looked at the Halloween night video . That night was the . That night was the day when no one testified that they had seen or spoken to Nori, and it was also the day when no one testified that they had seen or spoken to Nori, and it was also the day Nori left her cell phone in a taxi day Nori left her cell phone in a taxi day Nori left her cell phone in a taxi . So . So . So he searched thoroughly from Saturday he searched thoroughly from Saturday until Sunday dawn and witnessed until Sunday dawn and witnessed until Sunday dawn and witnessed her entering the building alone around 2:30 a.m. I her entering the building alone around 2:30 a.m. I realized it was her because she was wearing a black dress and holding a mask she found on the sofa.
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realized it was her because she was wearing a black dress and holding a mask she found on the sofa. But, well... Since it was But, well... Since it was Halloween, everyone was Halloween, everyone was wearing costumes. wearing costumes. wearing costumes. Everyone, let's go. People came and went all weekend Everyone, let's go. People came and went all weekend wearing masks, wigs, and costumes. So even if someone entered through the front gate and was caught on camera, their even if someone entered through the front gate and was caught on camera, their face might not have appeared face might not have appeared face might not have appeared . Besides, that is assuming you entered through the main gate . Besides, that is assuming you entered through the main gate . At the time, Carlos said there were . At the time, Carlos said there were other ways to enter the building other ways to enter the building other ways to enter the building . For example, . For example, places like near a parking lot where there are no cameras at all. There was no camera on the floor where Nori lived, either. Then, was the culprit no camera on the floor where Nori lived, either. Then, was the culprit caught on video? I think so, and caught on video? I think so, and caught on video? I think so, and not so not so not so . No, it is highly . No, it is highly likely that your face will not appear in the building security footage likely that your face will not appear in the building security footage likely that your face will not appear in the building security footage . However, yes, the culprit's . However, yes, the culprit's . However, yes, the culprit's appearance might have been captured on video appearance might have been captured on video appearance might have been captured on video . Actually, Nori himself might have . Actually, Nori himself might have . Actually, Nori himself might have taken the picture. As the police taken the picture. As the police trace back Nori's movements before she arrived at the apartment, they discover that she had something else that night. It was a small, discover that she had something else that night. It was a small, red digital camera.
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red digital camera. red digital camera. However, no such camera was found anywhere in the apartment However, no such camera was found anywhere in the apartment . This suggests the possibility that the culprit . This suggests the possibility that the culprit stole something from Nori stole something from Nori stole something from Nori . . Nori's family told Detective Patterson that she always carried a small, she always carried a small, she always carried a small, red digital camera red digital camera red digital camera . . . "It was "It was "It was 2009, you know. We were 2009, you know. We were 2009, you know. We were all like that. all like that. all like that. My little Sony Cyber-Shot My little Sony Cyber-Shot My little Sony Cyber-Shot was with me everywhere. was with me everywhere. was with me everywhere. Mine was blue." The Mine was blue." The camera Nori's family remembers was that red camera Nori's family remembers was that red Sony Cyber-Shot. Sony Cyber-Shot. Sony Cyber-Shot. Detective Patterson said he was certain Nori was Detective Patterson said he was certain Nori was Detective Patterson said he was certain Nori was carrying a camera that night carrying a camera that night . As a result of tracking Nori's movements . As a result of tracking Nori's movements , he obtained , he obtained video evidence that she spent Halloween at a club dancing salsa with friends . Salsa dancing . Salsa dancing was very important to Nori. It was a great help in my was very important to Nori. It was a great help in my recovery after suffering from health problems when I was young recovery after suffering from health problems when I was young recovery after suffering from health problems when I was young . . . She was so skilled at salsa that she even She was so skilled at salsa that she even competed in local competitions. She knew almost every salsa club in Washington, D.C., so almost every salsa club in Washington, D.C., so people people called her the Salsa Queen. According to the police, there were no notable incidents while she was dancing at the club she frequented dancing at the club she frequented . There weren't any big fights or . There weren't any big fights or incidents captured on CCTV incidents captured on CCTV incidents captured on CCTV . But there was a problem . But there was a problem . But there was a problem . You remember I . You remember I . You remember I told you that Nori was in the middle of breaking up, right told you that Nori was in the middle of breaking up, right told you that Nori was in the middle of breaking up, right ? yes ? yes ? yes .
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. . The club was owned by the man who was trying to break up with her The club was owned by the man who was trying to break up with her . Because . Because breaking up is an active act breaking up is an active act breaking up is an active act . So, she was trying to . So, she was trying to . So, she was trying to end the relationship. end the relationship. end the relationship. Well, actually, there were some more complicated circumstances than that, but I'll tell you about them in Well, actually, there were some more complicated circumstances than that, but I'll tell you about them in detail later detail later . Anyway, she . Anyway, she . Anyway, she planned to break up that night. Now, let me planned to break up that night. Now, let me planned to break up that night. Now, let me give you some background information and then we will give you some background information and then we will return to the chronological order of the events. Detective Patterson learns from Nori's family and friends that she had been having an affair with a man named Gustavo, the owner of a club, for several months before she was murdered. Since Gustavo did learns from Nori's family and friends that she had been having an affair with a man named Gustavo, the owner of a club, for several months before she was murdered. Since Gustavo did not respond to our contact not respond to our contact not respond to our contact , his position is what he revealed regarding , his position is what he revealed regarding Nori's murder case in an interview with the Washington Post in 2010 Nori's murder case in an interview with the Washington Post in 2010 . He . He said that he and Nori had a lot in common. Both are said that he and Nori had a lot in common. Both are immigrants from Latin America who immigrants from Latin America who immigrants from Latin America who settled in the Washington, D.C. area settled in the Washington, D.C. area settled in the Washington, D.C. area . Nori . Nori came to the United States from El Salvador with his family when he was young, and Gustavo came to DC from Argentina. And came to DC from Argentina. And came to DC from Argentina. And both of them built their lives centering on the food service industry both of them built their lives centering on the food service industry . . . Nori Nori Nori ran an Italian restaurant with Carlos ran an Italian restaurant with Carlos ran an Italian restaurant with Carlos , and Gustavo , and Gustavo , and Gustavo opened a Latin American club opened a Latin American club . So, both of them knew very well what it was like to . So, both of them knew very well what it was like to build their own business here build their own business here . Same long working . Same long working hours, same stress, hours, same stress, hours, same stress, same business problems, same business problems, same business problems, and even the same passion.
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and even the same passion. and even the same passion. He said that the two were exactly the same He said that the two were exactly the same He said that the two were exactly the same . However, . However, there was one important fact about Gustavo's life that the two of them were completely unaware of when they first met. He was married there was one important fact about Gustavo's life that the two of them were completely unaware of when they first met. He was married . Nori only found out about it . Nori only found out about it after their relationship had already deepened after their relationship had already deepened after their relationship had already deepened . . . According to people close to Nori According to people close to Nori , when Nori confronted Gustavo , when Nori confronted Gustavo , when Nori confronted Gustavo , he reportedly said that although their marriage was , he reportedly said that although their marriage was effectively over, they effectively over, they effectively over, they could lose everything if they divorced could lose everything if they divorced could lose everything if they divorced . . . Restaurants, money, everything. Restaurants, money, everything. Restaurants, money, everything. So, he told Nori that being with his wife was So, he told Nori that being with his wife was So, he told Nori that being with his wife was merely a financial merely a financial merely a financial contract contract contract . Whether that . Whether that . Whether that was true or not, Nori was true or not, Nori was true or not, Nori continued continued continued to meet Gustavo. However, to meet Gustavo. However, according to Carlos, as time went by, he according to Carlos, as time went by, he clearly realized that Gustavo, whom he was aiming for, had no intention of sharing a future with him, or at least did not want the kind of future he wanted clearly realized that Gustavo, whom he was aiming for, had no intention of sharing a future with him, or at least did not want the kind of future he wanted . Nori . Nori wanted to get married and have children, and was tired of wanted to get married and have children, and was tired of feeling trapped in someone else's married life feeling trapped in someone else's married life feeling trapped in someone else's married life . . . In a 2010 interview, Gustavo said that as the relationship became In a 2010 interview, Gustavo said that as the relationship became In a 2010 interview, Gustavo said that as the relationship became serious, everything serious, everything seemed to be moving too fast, or perhaps too fast . And who wouldn't have . And who wouldn't have liked that fast pace liked that fast pace liked that fast pace ? It was Gustavo's ? It was Gustavo's ? It was Gustavo's wife.
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wife. wife. According to Carlos, the According to Carlos, the restaurant's main phone restaurant's main phone rang about two weeks before Nori was murdered. Carlos answered the rang about two weeks before Nori was murdered. Carlos answered the phone, and the phone, and the phone, and the woman on the other end said she wanted to speak with Nori and introduced woman on the other end said she wanted to speak with Nori and introduced woman on the other end said she wanted to speak with Nori and introduced herself as herself as herself as Gustavo's wife Gustavo's wife . So Carlos wrote . So Carlos wrote . So Carlos wrote the woman's the woman's the woman's name and phone number on the restaurant reservation board and name and phone number on the restaurant reservation board and name and phone number on the restaurant reservation board and told his sister. I told his sister. I don't know if Nori called that woman again or what happened afterward, but anyway, it was don't know if Nori called that woman again or what happened afterward, but anyway, it was certain that everything came to light certain that everything came to light certain that everything came to light . . If the two women had talked to each other, Nori might have realized that she was being If the two women had talked to each other, Nori might have realized that she was being used used used . I . I think Nori's psychological state around Halloween was exactly like that. It was a think Nori's psychological state around Halloween was exactly like that. It was a state where it had completely reached its limit state where it had completely reached its limit state where it had completely reached its limit . I . I . I really liked Halloween. Carlos said that every year he really liked Halloween. Carlos said that every year he celebrated by making fancy costumes and going around dancing, but celebrated by making fancy costumes and going around dancing, but that year he was so upset because of Gustavo that he could that year he was so upset because of Gustavo that he could n't even bring himself to make a costume n't even bring himself to make a costume . . They say Carlos made the mask Nori will wear himself. They probably found an old Venetian-style mask in the office upstairs They probably found an old Venetian-style mask in the office upstairs . They say she took it apart, . They say she took it apart, . They say she took it apart, attached fancy feathers to it, and came out attached fancy feathers to it, and came out attached fancy feathers to it, and came out wearing that mask on a black dress wearing that mask on a black dress wearing that mask on a black dress .
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. . Returning to the story of Halloween night... that night was the Returning to the story of Halloween night... that night was the day Nori got off work early and Carlos closed the restaurant. Around 9:30 PM, the two of them day Nori got off work early and Carlos closed the restaurant. Around 9:30 PM, the two of them sat at a bar, sat at a bar, sat at a bar, had dinner, and shared their favorite wine had dinner, and shared their favorite wine had dinner, and shared their favorite wine . . According to Carlos, he started crying during dinner According to Carlos, he started crying during dinner According to Carlos, he started crying during dinner because of Gustavo because of Gustavo because of Gustavo . Nori seemed finally . Nori seemed finally ready to end her relationship with Gustavo and break up completely ready to end her relationship with Gustavo and break up completely . Carlos told Nori that she . Carlos told Nori that she . Carlos told Nori that she deserved to meet someone better deserved to meet someone better deserved to meet someone better . And around . And around . And around 10:30 PM, Nori stepped out onto the night streets 10:30 PM, Nori stepped out onto the night streets 10:30 PM, Nori stepped out onto the night streets . The first place she went was . The first place she went was Gustavo's club, Rumba Gustavo's club, Rumba Gustavo's club, Rumba Café. As mentioned earlier, Café. As mentioned earlier, there is footage of the interior of Nori's Rumba Cafe that Detective Patterson is reviewing. Everything looks ordinary in the video there is footage of the interior of Nori's Rumba Cafe that Detective Patterson is reviewing. Everything looks ordinary in the video . People were dancing . People were dancing , drinking alcohol, and , drinking alcohol, and , drinking alcohol, and walking around wearing costumes and masks walking around wearing costumes and masks walking around wearing costumes and masks . Then, Detective Patterson . Then, Detective Patterson spots Nori sitting at a table and taking pictures with a small red camera that will later disappear. However, the spots Nori sitting at a table and taking pictures with a small red camera that will later disappear. However, the drama drama drama begins right from here, but not all of those scenes were begins right from here, but not all of those scenes were begins right from here, but not all of those scenes were captured intact on video captured intact on video captured intact on video . Detective Patterson figures out the full story of the incident through conversations with the . Detective Patterson figures out the full story of the incident through conversations with the . Detective Patterson figures out the full story of the incident through conversations with the people who were at the scene that night, for example, people who were at the scene that night, for example, Gustavo and Nori's Gustavo and Nori's Gustavo and Nori's two friends ( two friends ( two friends ( for privacy reasons, I will call them Amanda and for privacy reasons, I will call them Amanda and for privacy reasons, I will call them Amanda and David David ).
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). ). Nori Nori spent at least some of the night around Gustavo spent at least some of the night around Gustavo . At one point, Nori . At one point, Nori asked Gustavo to sit next to him, but asked Gustavo to sit next to him, but Gustavo refused, saying he was working Gustavo refused, saying he was working Gustavo refused, saying he was working . And . And . And Gustavo later recalled that Nori Gustavo later recalled that Nori Gustavo later recalled that Nori looked sad behind the mask looked sad behind the mask looked sad behind the mask . . . Why do you think that happened? Why do you think that happened? Why do you think that happened? Detective Patterson even remembers the Detective Patterson even remembers the Detective Patterson even remembers the text message Nori sent to a friend around that time text message Nori sent to a friend around that time text message Nori sent to a friend around that time . . . Nori said he was upset because Gustavo wasn't paying attention to him Nori said he was upset because Gustavo wasn't paying attention to him . In the end, . In the end, Nori Nori Nori left without saying goodbye to anyone left without saying goodbye to anyone left without saying goodbye to anyone . You mean he . You mean he . You mean he left alone? left alone? left alone? Yes, Nori's friend David Yes, Nori's friend David said that he was quite drunk and someone took him home from the club. Another said that he was quite drunk and someone took him home from the club. Another friend, Amanda, said that even friend, Amanda, said that even friend, Amanda, said that even after Nori left, she enjoyed partying after Nori left, she enjoyed partying after Nori left, she enjoyed partying with Gustavo and his group near Rumba until late at night with Gustavo and his group near Rumba until late at night . At first, I thought it was a bit strange . At first, I thought it was a bit strange . Why is she living with an . Why is she living with an ex-boyfriend who has problems with his friend ex-boyfriend who has problems with his friend ? I wanted to ? I wanted to ? I wanted to . However, Amanda was . However, Amanda was close with Gustavo because she had worked at a Rumba cafe . The two of them became close first . The two of them became close first . I was close with both of them. . I was close with both of them. . I was close with both of them. By the way, did Nori By the way, did Nori By the way, did Nori really break up with Gustavo? really break up with Gustavo? really break up with Gustavo? no. no. no. Gustavo said that wasn't the Gustavo said that wasn't the Gustavo said that wasn't the case. Nori doesn't case. Nori doesn't case. Nori doesn't go straight home after leaving the Rumba Cafe go straight home after leaving the Rumba Cafe go straight home after leaving the Rumba Cafe . No matter how bad the day is, I never . No matter how bad the day is, I never . No matter how bad the day is, I never give up dancing give up dancing give up dancing . Detective Patterson . Detective Patterson . Detective Patterson said that he went to the lounge, then said that he went to the lounge, then went to a club downtown and went to a club downtown and went to a club downtown and met a dance partner.
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met a dance partner. met a dance partner. But they said tonight was somehow different But they said tonight was somehow different But they said tonight was somehow different . I arrived at a . I arrived at a . I arrived at a downtown club called Bravo Bravo around 1:45 AM downtown club called Bravo Bravo around 1:45 AM downtown club called Bravo Bravo around 1:45 AM , and my dance , and my dance , and my dance partner told Detective Patterson that partner told Detective Patterson that partner told Detective Patterson that Nori wanted to leave almost immediately Nori wanted to leave almost immediately Nori wanted to leave almost immediately . They . They said it looked like she was crying under the mask. So, said it looked like she was crying under the mask. So, less than 15 minutes after arriving there less than 15 minutes after arriving there less than 15 minutes after arriving there , he took her outside, , he took her outside, , he took her outside, put her in a taxi, put her in a taxi, put her in a taxi, took her to her apartment, and took her to her apartment, and took her to her apartment, and watched her leave watched her leave . That is the taxi that took her home . That is the taxi that took her home . That is the taxi that took her home . Knowing that she . Knowing that she arrived home around 2:30 arrived home around 2:30 arrived home around 2:30 , , , Carlos said the police speculated that she Carlos said the police speculated that she most likely died between 2:30 and 6:00 AM . Were there no other contents on her cell phone, such as anything happening or her meeting someone? no other contents on her cell phone, such as anything happening or her meeting someone? Currently, investigators have not provided Currently, investigators have not provided Currently, investigators have not provided details regarding her cell phone details regarding her cell phone details regarding her cell phone . . . They only said that there was nothing related to the murder case on the cell phone They only said that there was nothing related to the murder case on the cell phone . Actually, . Actually, Carlos used to Carlos used to Carlos used to have her cell phone have her cell phone have her cell phone . The police . The police . The police extracted all the data and extracted all the data and extracted all the data and returned it to him. However, I returned it to him. However, I returned it to him. However, I lost my mobile phone during the moving process lost my mobile phone during the moving process lost my mobile phone during the moving process . It was really unfortunate . It was really unfortunate . It was really unfortunate . I wish I could have found that cell phone . I wish I could have found that cell phone again and found out the full story of the incident again and found out the full story of the incident . But all . But all Carlos really remembers is that Carlos really remembers is that Carlos really remembers is that Nori Nori Nori called around midnight that night and asked to meet called around midnight that night and asked to meet called around midnight that night and asked to meet . It was probably . It was probably . It was probably around the time I was leaving the Rumba Cafe.
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around the time I was leaving the Rumba Cafe. around the time I was leaving the Rumba Cafe. But Carlos But Carlos said he was at a friend's party. When Nori called, it said he was at a friend's party. When Nori called, it was just a casual get-together, and Carlos said, "It won't do any good for you to come." Of course, said, "It won't do any good for you to come." Of course, Carlos said that he spent years wondering what would have happened if he had Carlos said that he spent years wondering what would have happened if he had Carlos said that he spent years wondering what would have happened if he had invited Nori to the party invited Nori to the party . How long did Nori stay in that lounge before going to the downtown club How long did Nori stay in that lounge before going to the downtown club ? The temporal background of all situations ? The temporal background of all situations ? The temporal background of all situations . I'm . I'm . I'm not exactly sure. It should be not exactly sure. It should be not exactly sure. It should be in the case file, but in the case file, but in the case file, but as I mentioned, we as I mentioned, we as I mentioned, we don't have that file. don't have that file. don't have that file. Detective Patterson also said he doesn't remember anything Detective Patterson also said he doesn't remember anything Detective Patterson also said he doesn't remember anything . I just . I just want to know what happened there, or if Nori was upset all night because of Gustavo want to know what happened there, or if Nori was upset all night because of Gustavo . . . Ah, I Ah, I Ah, I 'm sure Nori left crying. As far as we know 'm sure Nori left crying. As far as we know , it seems she was upset because of Gustavo , it seems she was upset because of Gustavo , it seems she was upset because of Gustavo . Nothing else has ever been . Nothing else has ever been . Nothing else has ever been revealed revealed revealed . So, if . So, if . So, if there is anyone who knows something else, this is the very there is anyone who knows something else, this is the very proof. But if it proof. But if it proof. But if it really was because of Gustavo really was because of Gustavo , I probably would have drunk all night , I probably would have drunk all night , I probably would have drunk all night . It's because I was overwhelmed by my emotions . It's because I was overwhelmed by my emotions . It's because I was overwhelmed by my emotions . . . All those emotions probably rushed in all at once later and All those emotions probably rushed in all at once later and All those emotions probably rushed in all at once later and overwhelmed her overwhelmed her overwhelmed her . That's right . That's right . That's right . Everyone around her was having . Everyone around her was having . Everyone around her was having fun, but she probably fun, but she probably fun, but she probably just wanted to go home just wanted to go home just wanted to go home .
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. The police must have verified Gustavo's alibi, right ? yes ? yes ? yes . He . He . He was one of the first people the police interrogated. was one of the first people the police interrogated. was one of the first people the police interrogated. Nori's older brother told me to look at him Nori's older brother told me to look at him Nori's older brother told me to look at him , and her friend David told me to look at him as well , and her friend David told me to look at him as well , and her friend David told me to look at him as well . David . David knew not only Nori, just like Amanda, but also Gustavo. knew not only Nori, just like Amanda, but also Gustavo. One of his family members One of his family members said that David worked part-time at Gustavo's club said that David worked part-time at Gustavo's club . So that evidence . So that evidence likely had some influence. Gustavo not only likely had some influence. Gustavo not only repeatedly denies the charge of killing Nori, but also repeatedly denies the charge of killing Nori, but also provides Detective Patterson with an alibi from Halloween night until the next morning provides Detective Patterson with an alibi from Halloween night until the next morning . He claims that he was outside all . He claims that he was outside all . He claims that he was outside all night with Amanda and his friends night with Amanda and his friends , and later those friends , and later those friends support this. And he support this. And he says that when the night ended, he returned to his apartment on the upper floor of the club and slept. However, since we don't know when Nori died However, since we don't know when Nori died , is the , is the , is the alibi really solid? alibi really solid? Because the evidence is weak, the police are Because the evidence is weak, the police are still collecting his DNA still collecting his DNA still collecting his DNA . And the police also ask about his wife, the . And the police also ask about his wife, the . And the police also ask about his wife, the third person in this love triangle third person in this love triangle . Why did the wife . Why did the wife call a few weeks before Nori died call a few weeks before Nori died call a few weeks before Nori died ? Did they threaten me or something?
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? Did they threaten me or something? Gustavo's answer is Gustavo's answer is surprising. He said that Nori had surprising. He said that Nori had told him about the phone call, and that he confronted his told him about the phone call, and that he confronted his told him about the phone call, and that he confronted his wife about it wife about it wife about it . . . However, his wife denied ever making the call, and she However, his wife denied ever making the call, and she denied it once again in an interview with a Washington Post reporter. It was as if they had denied it from beginning to end denied it from beginning to end denied it from beginning to end . However, . However, . However, Gustavo said that he was even more scared because of this phone call Gustavo said that he was even more scared because of this phone call Gustavo said that he was even more scared because of this phone call . If . If . If the wife the wife the wife hadn't called Nori, who would have called? hadn't called Nori, who would have called? hadn't called Nori, who would have called? And who pretended to be the wife And who pretended to be the wife And who pretended to be the wife ? That would give rise to ? That would give rise to ? That would give rise to all sorts of mysteries and speculation all sorts of mysteries and speculation all sorts of mysteries and speculation , but Detective Patterson , but Detective Patterson , but Detective Patterson thought that was unnecessary thought that was unnecessary thought that was unnecessary . He said, "{Quote} That . He said, "{Quote} That . He said, "{Quote} That was Gustavo's wife." He was Gustavo's wife." He was Gustavo's wife." He said. So, it said. So, it seems he thinks his wife called. seems he thinks his wife called. And in the initial investigation, they took it so seriously that they interrogated the wife And in the initial investigation, they took it so seriously that they interrogated the wife And in the initial investigation, they took it so seriously that they interrogated the wife , secured a solid alibi , secured a solid alibi , and even collected DNA , and even collected DNA . . But why did he collect his wife's DNA But why did he collect his wife's DNA But why did he collect his wife's DNA ? I thought male DNA ? I thought male DNA ? I thought male DNA came out, you know came out, you know . .
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. Yes, but we ca Yes, but we ca Yes, but we ca n't be sure. yes n't be sure. yes n't be sure. yes . Come to . Come to . Come to think of it, think of it, think of it, one of the things Detective Patterson considered was the possibility that a third one of the things Detective Patterson considered was the possibility that a third one of the things Detective Patterson considered was the possibility that a third party acted on behalf of Gustavo or his wife party acted on behalf of Gustavo or his wife . It is said that Detective Patterson had a specific person in mind at the time specific person in mind at the time specific person in mind at the time . . This employee working at Gustavo's club lived on the floor above the club, in the This employee working at Gustavo's club lived on the floor above the club, in the same building as the owner same building as the owner . Suspicious aspects of this man stood out immediately after Nori's death . Suspicious aspects of this man stood out immediately after Nori's death . Suspicious aspects of this man stood out immediately after Nori's death , when Nori's friend David , when Nori's friend David reported him to the police reported him to the police . It was that this employee . It was that this employee suddenly left for Argentina suddenly left for Argentina . The employee . The employee said it was because of a family funeral, but the detectives thought the timing was said it was because of a family funeral, but the detectives thought the timing was too perfect too perfect too perfect . So they . So they planned a sting operation to secretly obtain DNA. Detective Patterson and his partner went to Argentina with two FBI agents. went to Argentina with two FBI agents. They met him by pretending to be buying real estate from the employee They met him by pretending to be buying real estate from the employee . And I . And I made plans for dinner. made plans for dinner. made plans for dinner. However, while he was away However, while he was away However, while he was away , , his glass and spoon were his glass and spoon were secretly taken away, just like in a spy movie. We brought the samples to secretly taken away, just like in a spy movie. We brought the samples to secretly taken away, just like in a spy movie. We brought the samples to the United States and analyzed the DNA of Gustavo, the United States and analyzed the DNA of Gustavo, the United States and analyzed the DNA of Gustavo, his wife, and this employee his wife, and this employee his wife, and this employee .
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. . And I waited for the results And I waited for the results . The DNA test results . The DNA test results . The DNA test results came out one by one. came out one by one. came out one by one. There is no DNA that matches Gustavo. It doesn't match my wife, nor does it There is no DNA that matches Gustavo. It doesn't match my wife, nor does it There is no DNA that matches Gustavo. It doesn't match my wife, nor does it match my staff. match my staff. Did the employee have an alibi? Did the employee have an alibi? Yes, is it possible to have an alibi in a situation where the time of death is unknown Yes, is it possible to have an alibi in a situation where the time of death is unknown ? The surveillance camera footage showed the employee remaining at the club for several hours even after Nori had left. showed the employee remaining at the club for several hours even after Nori had left. And the investigators And the investigators also discovered that the funeral held in Argentina was real also discovered that the funeral held in Argentina was real . It means I didn't just make it up . It means I didn't just make it up . It means I didn't just make it up . . . All right. However, All right. However, All right. However, none of these people can come up with a scenario where they would take Nori's camera none of these people can come up with a scenario where they would take Nori's camera . . Hmm, back to the camera story Hmm, back to the camera story Hmm, back to the camera story . yes . yes . yes . I think I'm obsessed with that camera . I think I'm obsessed with that camera . I think I'm obsessed with that camera . I don't . I don't think there is any reason for my wife to do that. If my wife think there is any reason for my wife to do that. If my wife was captured in the background of the photo, it could be was captured in the background of the photo, it could be was captured in the background of the photo, it could be proof that she followed Nori that night proof that she followed Nori that night . . . However, the police know through the wife's However, the police know through the wife's However, the police know through the wife's alibi that she did not go out that night alibi that she did not go out that night . And the DNA did . And the DNA did n't match either. hmm. n't match either. hmm. n't match either. hmm. So, she's not my wife.
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So, she's not my wife. So, she's not my wife. I think the employee probably did I think the employee probably did n't want her to be photographed at one of the last two places she went to. n't want her to be photographed at one of the last two places she went to. For example, just because he appears in a photo of a Rumba cafe does For example, just because he appears in a photo of a Rumba cafe does n't mean it has any special meaning. Because he n't mean it has any special meaning. Because he works there. works there. works there. We all know that he was there We all know that he was there We all know that he was there . . . Right? Right? Right? If it were Gustavo, he would have had the If it were Gustavo, he would have had the most to hide if a photo of him and Nori together had been taken on camera, but that is only possible under the assumption that his wife was unaware of the affair possible under the assumption that his wife was unaware of the affair . But Detective Patterson is . But Detective Patterson is convinced that his wife knew about the affair . Right? So the . Right? So the . Right? So the question is, who was the other person captured on camera that night? It must be the question is, who was the other person captured on camera that night? It must be the other people who were with her that night. The other people who were with her that night. The investigators will question those people investigators will question those people investigators will question those people . For example, . For example, let's look into her dance partner. He was with her for the last time, you know . He is the person who . He is the person who put her in a taxi and put her in a taxi and put her in a taxi and took her home. But took her home. But took her home. But he has no motive. Because he has no motive. Because he has no motive. Because he was only with her for a few minutes he was only with her for a few minutes he was only with her for a few minutes . Furthermore, . Furthermore, . Furthermore, his DNA did not match either his DNA did not match either his DNA did not match either . To be honest, . To be honest, . To be honest, Patterson said that they never actually suspected him Patterson said that they never actually suspected him . They only tested his DNA to thoroughly investigate all possibilities tested his DNA to thoroughly investigate all possibilities . It was to make everything certain . It was to make everything certain . It was to make everything certain .
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. . However, the person who truly aroused the police's suspicion was However, the person who truly aroused the police's suspicion was someone Nori had known for years and whom she trusted someone Nori had known for years and whom she trusted . It was the . It was the person who identified Gustavo as a suspect, and the person who identified Gustavo as a suspect, and the person who informed the police about Gustavo's employee person who informed the police about Gustavo's employee person who informed the police about Gustavo's employee . Furthermore, that is also the person who appeared . Furthermore, that is also the person who appeared at the crime scene without any notice on the very day Nori was found . That person . That person is David. Now, let's take a short is David. Now, let's take a short is David. Now, let's take a short break. Everyone, I only have about 30 minutes to myself a day because I have to work with reporters break. Everyone, I only have about 30 minutes to myself a day because I have to work with reporters and the production team, do recording work, and the production team, do recording work, and the production team, do recording work, run the company, and fulfill my roles as a wife and mother run the company, and fulfill my roles as a wife and mother . So, if you want to exercise, you must So, if you want to exercise, you must make time for it anytime, anywhere make time for it anytime, anywhere make time for it anytime, anywhere . Sometimes we . Sometimes we . Sometimes we use spare studios use spare studios . I don't have a gym, and I . I don't have a gym, and I . I don't have a gym, and I don't have a team to look after me. All don't have a team to look after me. All don't have a team to look after me. All I have is a little exercise I have is a little exercise I have is a little exercise space, a few dumbbells, space, a few dumbbells, space, a few dumbbells, and a ladder app. and a ladder app. and a ladder app. Thanks to the Ladder app, it feels like a personal Thanks to the Ladder app, it feels like a personal Thanks to the Ladder app, it feels like a personal trainer is trainer is constantly encouraging me right beside me through headphones constantly encouraging me right beside me through headphones constantly encouraging me right beside me through headphones . You can receive help not . You can receive help not . You can receive help not only with every set, but also whenever a weekly training plan is established based on the results only with every set, but also whenever a weekly training plan is established based on the results only with every set, but also whenever a weekly training plan is established based on the results built through systematic training blocks built through systematic training blocks .
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detail. detail. Nori's older sister, Liz, said that after calling 911, Nori's older sister, Liz, said that after calling 911, Nori's older sister, Liz, said that after calling 911, the police took over the apartment and told the police took over the apartment and told the police took over the apartment and told Carlos and Liz to Carlos and Liz to Carlos and Liz to go out into the hallway go out into the hallway go out into the hallway . . . When Liz went out into the hallway, David was reportedly waiting When Liz went out into the hallway, David was reportedly waiting When Liz went out into the hallway, David was reportedly waiting among the people gathered around the door among the people gathered around the door . Liz said she could not remember . Liz said she could not remember exactly how many minutes had passed since the police arrived exactly how many minutes had passed since the police arrived exactly how many minutes had passed since the police arrived , or when she had seen David , or when she had seen David . It is said that this is because everything happened in an instant . . However, according to her memory, However, according to her memory, However, according to her memory, after finding Nori, after finding Nori, after finding Nori, David suddenly David suddenly David suddenly appeared right in front of the apartment appeared right in front of the apartment appeared right in front of the apartment . She said that to her, it felt like everything . She said that to her, it felt like everything . She said that to her, it felt like everything happened in an instant happened in an instant happened in an instant . . Did someone contact David? Did someone contact David? Carlos and Leeds Carlos and Leeds Carlos and Leeds said it wasn't them. Perhaps there might be an explanation for this situation that is said it wasn't them. Perhaps there might be an explanation for this situation that is said it wasn't them. Perhaps there might be an explanation for this situation that is not problematic at all not problematic at all not problematic at all . . . Okay, Okay, Okay, then what is David's explanation then what is David's explanation then what is David's explanation ? ? ? Well, I Well, I Well, I tried to contact you several times through various methods, but I could tried to contact you several times through various methods, but I could tried to contact you several times through various methods, but I could n't reach you. n't reach you. n't reach you. Detective Patterson remembers that David's Detective Patterson remembers that David's Detective Patterson remembers that David's explanation was a bit strange and explanation was a bit strange and remembers asking David directly, but remembers asking David directly, but David says he does David says he does not remember exactly what was said. not remember exactly what was said. Yes, unfortunately. However, Yes, unfortunately. However, Yes, unfortunately. However, Carlos said that David called Carlos said that David called Carlos said that David called Nori at the same time Nori at the same time Nori at the same time .
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. . Carlos had Nori's cell phone Carlos had Nori's cell phone because David hadn't heard from Nori. So, because David hadn't heard from Nori. So, David might have also been worried and set out to look for David might have also been worried and set out to look for David might have also been worried and set out to look for Nori, just like Carlos Nori, just like Carlos Nori, just like Carlos . . . However, it is said that another friend of Nori's However, it is said that another friend of Nori's also had a strange encounter with David also had a strange encounter with David also had a strange encounter with David . She said she . She said she heard the news that Nori was murdered at work. heard the news that Nori was murdered at work. So her friends gave her a So her friends gave her a So her friends gave her a ride in their car and took her to Nori's mom's house ride in their car and took her to Nori's mom's house ride in their car and took her to Nori's mom's house . On her way, . On her way, . On her way, she called home to let them know she was she called home to let them know she was she called home to let them know she was arriving and arriving and arriving and checked to see if everything was okay. However, it was checked to see if everything was okay. However, it was checked to see if everything was okay. However, it was David who answered the phone. David who answered the phone. David who answered the phone. He was there. He was there. He was there. David immediately began to explain in great detail David immediately began to explain in great detail David immediately began to explain in great detail where he was on the night Nori died and where he was on the night Nori died and where he was on the night Nori died and why he was not with Nori why he was not with Nori . I felt sick, as if I had caught a cold, so I went home, went home, went home, took some medicine, and fell asleep, but I ended up oversleeping took some medicine, and fell asleep, but I ended up oversleeping took some medicine, and fell asleep, but I ended up oversleeping . Nori's friend thought . Nori's friend thought to himself, 'Why is he telling me this to himself, 'Why is he telling me this to himself, 'Why is he telling me this ?' Why are ?' Why are ?' Why are n't you talking about Nori? That's what I n't you talking about Nori? That's what I n't you talking about Nori? That's what I thought, but I just kept thought, but I just kept listening to David talk listening to David talk listening to David talk . As . As . As soon as I hung up the phone, I said soon as I hung up the phone, I said soon as I hung up the phone, I said to the people in the car, "That was a really strange to the people in the car, "That was a really strange to the people in the car, "That was a really strange conversation." I heard that he said that conversation." I heard that he said that conversation." I heard that he said that . . . He went back to Nori's apartment that day and told He went back to Nori's apartment that day and told the police that he had been with Nori that night when David arrived at the scene the police that he had been with Nori that night when David arrived at the scene .
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. So, naturally, he went to So, naturally, he went to the police station with Carlos and Liz and the police station with Carlos and Liz and the police station with Carlos and Liz and gave a statement. gave a statement. gave a statement. However, according to Liz, he However, according to Liz, he However, according to Liz, he just started making guesses and just started making guesses and just started making guesses and randomly listing names randomly listing names randomly listing names . . . Of course, at that time, the police accepted Of course, at that time, the police accepted Of course, at that time, the police accepted every clue he gave and every clue he gave and started writing down names here and there. started writing down names here and there. However, while Detective Patterson However, while Detective Patterson was trying to uncover the relationship between David and Nori and his whereabouts over Halloween weekend , he began to feel something was amiss , he began to feel something was amiss , he began to feel something was amiss . . . According to Detective Patterson, David According to Detective Patterson, David went to the Gustavo Club with Nori that night, and because he was too drunk to drive, a club employee because he was too drunk to drive, a club employee drove him home drove him home drove him home . Wait, did . Wait, did n't you say you went home and took medicine because you caught a cold? n't you say you went home and took medicine because you caught a cold? Yes, that is correct. That friend Yes, that is correct. That friend Yes, that is correct. That friend remembers it that way, but since remembers it that way, but since remembers it that way, but since emotions were so heightened at the time, emotions were so heightened at the time, emotions were so heightened at the time, who would know? Anyway, his who would know? Anyway, his who would know? Anyway, his house was in Maryland, about a house was in Maryland, about a house was in Maryland, about a 40-minute drive away 40-minute drive away 40-minute drive away . So . So . So when someone gave him a ride home, he had to when someone gave him a ride home, he had to leave his car in Washington D.C. leave his car in Washington D.C. leave his car in Washington D.C. David said he came David said he came back to Washington D.C. the next day to pick up the car back to Washington D.C. the next day to pick up the car back to Washington D.C. the next day to pick up the car . Then . Then . Then Detective Patterson said, "Okay, so Detective Patterson said, "Okay, so Detective Patterson said, "Okay, so exactly where did he leave the car exactly where did he leave the car exactly where did he leave the car ? How did he get back downtown ? How did he get back downtown ? How did he get back downtown ? When did he get back? How long was he there?
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? When did he get back? How long was he there? ? When did he get back? How long was he there? And And And that's important, right? For example that's important, right? For example , was he in Washington D.C. , was he in Washington D.C. , was he in Washington D.C. between 2:30 and 6:00 a.m. between 2:30 and 6:00 a.m. " They " They " They started asking... Do started asking... Do started asking... Do n't you want to tear your hair out? n't you want to tear your hair out? n't you want to tear your hair out? However, now that several years have passed, However, now that several years have passed, However, now that several years have passed, Detective Patterson doesn't Detective Patterson doesn't Detective Patterson doesn't remember exactly what David said remember exactly what David said remember exactly what David said . Currently, neither the investigators . Currently, neither the investigators . Currently, neither the investigators nor David himself could nor David himself could get an answer to this question. However, get an answer to this question. However, Detective Patterson said that David's Detective Patterson said that David's Detective Patterson said that David's answer didn't add up answer didn't add up answer didn't add up . I can't calculate it. . I can't calculate it. . I can't calculate it. That's what he said. And That's what he said. And That's what he said. And Detective Patterson realized Detective Patterson realized Detective Patterson realized how much Nori trusted David how much Nori trusted David how much Nori trusted David , and how easily he could come and go from Nori's , and how easily he could come and go from Nori's , and how easily he could come and go from Nori's apartment apartment . As you may recall , one of the things he noted when he first arrived at the scene was that there were , one of the things he noted when he first arrived at the scene was that there were no signs of forced entry no signs of forced entry . Even when Carlos . Even when Carlos went to check Nori's apartment, the went to check Nori's apartment, the went to check Nori's apartment, the door was locked, so he had to door was locked, so he had to ask the security guard to open it. There are several other possibilities regarding all of this, which I will There are several other possibilities regarding all of this, which I will discuss in detail later discuss in detail later . However, . However, based on everything he saw at the scene, Detective Patterson concluded that this based on everything he saw at the scene, Detective Patterson concluded that this based on everything he saw at the scene, Detective Patterson concluded that this crime was motivated by a personal vendetta crime was motivated by a personal vendetta crime was motivated by a personal vendetta . He . He thought it might be someone Nori knew, perhaps someone who had a key to Nori's apartment thought it might be someone Nori knew, perhaps someone who had a key to Nori's apartment . Nori's brother, Carlos, . Nori's brother, Carlos, told Detective Patterson that David had her apartment key for a very interesting reason. At the time, told Detective Patterson that David had her apartment key for a very interesting reason. At the time, in 2009, in 2009, in 2009, David was married but David was married but
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was also seeing other men. Detective Patterson mentioned was also seeing other men. Detective Patterson mentioned hearing about one particular man hearing about one particular man , , , whom I will whom I will whom I will refer to as Eric for privacy reasons. refer to as Eric for privacy reasons. refer to as Eric for privacy reasons. Nori... David's Nori... David's It seems he allowed the apartment to be used as if it were a private meeting place. Now, when Detective Patterson asked David if he had a key, when Detective Patterson asked David if he had a key, he completely denied it. he completely denied it. he completely denied it. And the police And the police And the police never found a key from him never found a key from him . So, it is highly likely that his statement is true . So, it is highly likely that his statement is true . So, it is highly likely that his statement is true . . . In fact, the key issue might In fact, the key issue might In fact, the key issue might not be that important not be that important not be that important . This is because I heard that Nori . This is because I heard that Nori . This is because I heard that Nori always went around without locking her door always went around without locking her door . As I mentioned, . As I mentioned, the building she lived in was the building she lived in was the building she lived in was well-equipped with security guards and a security system well-equipped with security guards and a security system well-equipped with security guards and a security system , and since the entrance , and since the entrance , and since the entrance had something like a keypad, had something like a keypad, had something like a keypad, Nori likely felt safe Nori likely felt safe Nori likely felt safe . She probably thought that since she was living in a very safe . She probably thought that since she was living in a very safe . She probably thought that since she was living in a very safe place, she place, she didn't need any additional security measures. didn't need any additional security measures. Carlos also said that Nori might have deliberately left her Carlos also said that Nori might have deliberately left her door unlocked for David's sake door unlocked for David's sake . However, I am not sure what David 's 's 's motive was motive was motive was . It . It . It seemed like Nori was helping him, seemed like Nori was helping him, seemed like Nori was helping him, after all. after all. after all. Well, that might be related to Nori's camera Well, that might be related to Nori's camera Well, that might be related to Nori's camera .
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. According to a source, According to a source, detectives discovered that before she died, Nori had detectives discovered that before she died, Nori had moved recent photos stored on her digital camera to the restaurant's computer because her computer had broken down moved recent photos stored on her digital camera to the restaurant's computer because her computer had broken down . Those files . Those files . Those files contained photos It contained photos It contained photos It contained... images of David and Eric contained... images of David and Eric dancing and kissing at a club dancing and kissing at a club dancing and kissing at a club . . . Ah, Ah, Ah, yes. The important thing is that our reporter, yes. The important thing is that our reporter, yes. The important thing is that our reporter, Monica, tracked down David's ex-wife Monica, tracked down David's ex-wife Monica, tracked down David's ex-wife . She said she . She said she knew David was having an affair knew David was having an affair . She and David were . She and David were . She and David were already living separately and already living separately and already living separately and divorced after Nori died. divorced after Nori died. divorced after Nori died. So, I don't think her finding out was a So, I don't think her finding out was a So, I don't think her finding out was a motive, but that does motive, but that does n't mean David was ready for it to be revealed to the world. n't mean David was ready for it to be revealed to the world. Then, what was Eric's situation Then, what was Eric's situation Then, what was Eric's situation ? From what we ? From what we ? From what we found out via social media found out via social media found out via social media , Eric had been working as a waiter for , Eric had been working as a waiter for , Eric had been working as a waiter for a few years after graduating from college in 2009. As far as a few years after graduating from college in 2009. As far as we know, he was we know, he was n't working at the Roommate Cafe.
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n't working at the Roommate Cafe. n't working at the Roommate Cafe. And while I don't know if he had fully come out And while I don't know if he had fully come out And while I don't know if he had fully come out , it , it seems he became close with Nori and her friends through David. It seems he came out to them at least seems he became close with Nori and her friends through David. It seems he came out to them at least , and we , and we contacted Eric during our coverage contacted Eric during our coverage . When we asked if he could talk about Nori—even just . When we asked if he could talk about Nori—even just . When we asked if he could talk about Nori—even just knowing her— knowing her— he replied, " he replied, " No." "Hmm..." No." "Hmm..." No." "Hmm..." I answered. "Nori, please rest well. I answered. "Nori, please rest well. I answered. "Nori, please rest well. But no." Listen, But no." Listen, there is a part of all this that I have doubts about. there is a part of all this that I have doubts about. I mean things like motivation. Nori has already I mean things like motivation. Nori has already downloaded photos of David and Eric to the computer. downloaded photos of David and Eric to the computer. So, if So, if So, if there was something they were trying to hide, one of them would have there was something they were trying to hide, one of them would have there was something they were trying to hide, one of them would have taken the camera, or they would have taken the camera, or they would have needed the computer in the restaurant instead of the camera. needed the computer in the restaurant instead of the camera. Right, but Right, but Right, but couldn't the culprit not have known that? For example, couldn't the culprit not have known that? For example, Nori's computer Nori's computer Nori's computer might be broken, she might might be broken, she might might be broken, she might not have even thought about the computer at work not have even thought about the computer at work not have even thought about the computer at work , and she might have , and she might have , and she might have thought that everything was still on the camera thought that everything was still on the camera thought that everything was still on the camera . . . Of course, that could be the case, but why did they have to Of course, that could be the case, but why did they have to Of course, that could be the case, but why did they have to wait until that night of all nights wait until that night of all nights wait until that night of all nights ? If those photos ? If those photos were conclusive evidence for someone, I think they should have were conclusive evidence for someone, I think they should have taken the camera on the night the photos were taken taken the camera on the night the photos were taken taken the camera on the night the photos were taken . That day was . That day was . That day was n't Halloween. If the camera is important n't Halloween. If the camera is important n't Halloween. If the camera is important , I think the photos should also be related to that night , I think the photos should also be related to that night .
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. And was Eric with David that night And was Eric with David that night And was Eric with David that night ? I do ? I do ? I do n't think so. As far as we know, n't think so. As far as we know, n't think so. As far as we know, David goes out David goes out David goes out alone when he's drunk. Of course, we might alone when he's drunk. Of course, we might alone when he's drunk. Of course, we might have met later, though. have met later, though. have met later, though. Anyway, we had to collect DNA from both of them Anyway, we had to collect DNA from both of them Anyway, we had to collect DNA from both of them ... "Neither of them ... "Neither of them ... "Neither of them matched Nori's DNA matched Nori's DNA matched Nori's DNA . However, . However, . However, Detective Patterson couldn't shake off a nagging suspicion regarding David Detective Patterson couldn't shake off a nagging suspicion regarding David . He didn't think David . He didn't think David killed Nori killed Nori killed Nori , but personally, he , but personally, he suspected that David was involved in the case or at least knew more than he admitted. suspected that David was involved in the case or at least knew more than he admitted. Is it just David? Is it just David? Is it just David? What about Eric? What about Eric? What about Eric? Detective Patterson Detective Patterson didn't mention Eric much. While his attention seemed mostly focused on David, he made it clear that no one could be one could be completely ruled out as a suspect until it was revealed what happened to Nori completely ruled out as a suspect until it was revealed what happened to Nori completely ruled out as a suspect until it was revealed what happened to Nori . . . However, it doesn't seem like Detective Patterson is However, it doesn't seem like Detective Patterson is However, it doesn't seem like Detective Patterson is focusing solely on David focusing solely on David focusing solely on David . Eric . Eric might not have been the only man David met.
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Almost all the time I covered this case, no other names were mentioned Almost all the time I covered this case, no other names were mentioned . They just said . They just said . They just said David David David met men. But I met men. But I learned a very interesting fact from Nori's friend learned a very interesting fact from Nori's friend . That friend . That friend told us. told us. told us. Just a few weeks before Nori was murdered, Just a few weeks before Nori was murdered, Just a few weeks before Nori was murdered, she she stopped by Nori's restaurant where David was..." stopped by Nori's restaurant where David was..." stopped by Nori's restaurant where David was..." Nori began to tell her about Nori began to tell her about Nori began to tell her about another man David was seeing another man David was seeing , who appeared to be a diplomat , who appeared to be a diplomat . Nori's friend couldn't even remember . Nori's friend couldn't even remember the man's name or background the man's name or background the man's name or background . . . However, Nori told her that she However, Nori told her that she and David had and David had and David had gone to the hotel where the diplomat was staying and gone to the hotel where the diplomat was staying and had argued with him there. Nori rebuked the diplomat for the way he was behaving toward David, saying, " rebuked the diplomat for the way he was behaving toward David, saying, " You're not a man." What kind of You're not a man." What kind of You're not a man." What kind of man acts like this? It is said that he said man acts like this? It is said that he said man acts like this? It is said that he said . And . And . And clearly, she did clearly, she did clearly, she did not back down. Nori's friend not back down. Nori's friend remembers being worried about Nori at that moment. If that man is remembers being worried about Nori at that moment. If that man is really a diplomat, he must be really a diplomat, he must be really a diplomat, he must be someone with considerable power. That's what I someone with considerable power. That's what I someone with considerable power. That's what I thought. Nori thought. Nori protested strongly to him. I have protested strongly to him. I have n't heard any more stories about that man since then. So maybe it's a n't heard any more stories about that man since then. So maybe it's a complete coincidence complete coincidence . However, since this case emerged in the latter part of the coverage, it is . However, since this case emerged in the latter part of the coverage, it is not possible to confirm whether an alibi was verified or a DNA test was conducted. I had already finished interviewing Detective Patterson . I tried to contact him again . I tried to contact him again , but I have not , but I have not , but I have not yet received a response to the question about that diplomat yet received a response to the question about that diplomat yet received a response to the question about that diplomat . The only person who confirmed that the police . The only person who confirmed that the police . The only person who confirmed that the police had heard the story about the diplomat was had heard the story about the diplomat was Nori's older brother, Carlos Nori's older brother, Carlos . It was interesting working with him . It was interesting working with him . It was interesting working with him . He
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. He . He is a really great person. More is a really great person. More is a really great person. More than anyone, I earnestly hope that Nori's case will be than anyone, I earnestly hope that Nori's case will be than anyone, I earnestly hope that Nori's case will be resolved resolved . Yes, we did everything, including DNA testing and . Yes, we did everything, including DNA testing and . Yes, we did everything, including DNA testing and verifying our alibi. verifying our alibi. verifying our alibi. He has never been on the list of suspects He has never been on the list of suspects He has never been on the list of suspects . However, he is being . However, he is being very careful not to interfere with the investigation. " So, whenever we found out something from another place So, whenever we found out something from another place So, whenever we found out something from another place or another person or another person , he would , he would , he would confirm it. It was confirm it. It was n't necessarily that he provided the information himself. n't necessarily that he provided the information himself. Yes, this diplomat case was like that too Yes, this diplomat case was like that too Yes, this diplomat case was like that too . When we . When we . When we asked him about it, he asked him about it, he said he remembered the diplomat being from Mexico . He also recalled that investigators . He also recalled that investigators tracked him down and spoke with him, but said it did tracked him down and spoke with him, but said it did n't seem to yield any significant results n't seem to yield any significant results . However, . However, I don't really know what that means or how many people actually caught him I don't really know what that means or how many people actually caught him . And . And . And whoever he was, I don't know if he whoever he was, I don't know if he whoever he was, I don't know if he was in Washington D.C. on Halloween night in 2009. I was in Washington D.C. on Halloween night in 2009. I was in Washington D.C. on Halloween night in 2009. I really really really want to ask him about that. want to ask him about that. want to ask him about that. Oh, and I was wondering if David and that Oh, and I was wondering if David and that Oh, and I was wondering if David and that diplomat ever shared Nori's apartment diplomat ever shared Nori's apartment . . Me too. I think the police must have asked David Me too. I think the police must have asked David . Detective Patterson . Detective Patterson investigated thoroughly, but we investigated thoroughly, but we can't be certain until he contacts us again. If David David knows more than Detective Patterson suspects, knows more than Detective Patterson suspects, there is a possibility that someone like the diplomat is involved. Someone David would be there is a possibility that someone like the diplomat is involved. Someone David would be afraid of, or...
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afraid of, or... afraid of, or... not yet..." not yet..." not yet..." Someone else whose identity has not been revealed Someone else whose identity has not been revealed may be involved may be involved may be involved . Or David might . Or David might . Or David might actually have nothing to do with it at all actually have nothing to do with it at all actually have nothing to do with it at all . Although we were . Although we were unable to contact David directly, we spoke with his family, and they recalled they recalled how deeply shocked he was by Nori's death how deeply shocked he was by Nori's death . One family member remembered him crying and saying, "She him crying and saying, "She him crying and saying, "She was my friend," while was my friend," while was my friend," while another recalled another recalled how shocked he was, saying, "I saw her just a moment ago; I can't believe this happened ." And they do not believe that David was involved in Nori's murder, and he has never been charged with any related offenses. Now, never been charged with any related offenses. Now, whether or not there is a key, we whether or not there is a key, we found out that Nori was known to leave the apartment without locking the door found out that Nori was known to leave the apartment without locking the door . As I . As I . As I mentioned, there was a security guard in front of the building mentioned, there was a security guard in front of the building , and several , and several cameras were installed. cameras were installed. cameras were installed. To enter, you To enter, you To enter, you had to use something like an access pass. It was had to use something like an access pass. It was had to use something like an access pass. It was safe. Yes, I safe. Yes, I thought the security was thorough. So thought the security was thorough. So sometimes you probably felt that additional security measures were sometimes you probably felt that additional security measures were sometimes you probably felt that additional security measures were not necessary. Because not necessary. Because not necessary. Because anyone could come in anyone could come in anyone could come in . . . Yes, but I am curious Yes, but I am curious Yes, but I am curious how people locked the door when they left how people locked the door when they left how people locked the door when they left . You should need a key . You should need a key . You should need a key . I intended to talk about this part . I intended to talk about this part . I intended to talk about this part again later again later again later .
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. . However, I don't want the conversation to stray off topic, so I will However, I don't want the conversation to stray off topic, so I will wrap it up here. The wrap it up here. The important thing is that no one important thing is that no one could or could or did not say for sure whether Nori's key was there. did not say for sure whether Nori's key was there. did not say for sure whether Nori's key was there. The police say that the only thing missing is the camera The police say that the only thing missing is the camera The police say that the only thing missing is the camera . So I . So I assume the key didn't disappear, but I ca n't know for sure. This is n't know for sure. This is especially true if you had a spare key especially true if you had a spare key especially true if you had a spare key . It was like she was giving to her friends . It was like she was giving to her friends . It was like she was giving to her friends . . . Whatever it was. You Whatever it was. You Whatever it was. You can't count it, right? can't count it, right? can't count it, right? But the more important thing is that But the more important thing is that But the more important thing is that someone someone someone was in her apartment after Nori died, and there is a was in her apartment after Nori died, and there is a was in her apartment after Nori died, and there is a possibility that person locked the door possibility that person locked the door possibility that person locked the door . When the police . When the police . When the police investigated the apartment, they investigated the apartment, they investigated the apartment, they found a business card for a pest control contractor found a business card for a pest control contractor found a business card for a pest control contractor . They also learned that the building management had . They also learned that the building management had scheduled unit-specific maintenance for Monday—the very Monday Nori was found . . . So, the pest control contractor came So, the pest control contractor came So, the pest control contractor came in with a key, in with a key, in with a key, performed the pest control work, and left performed the pest control work, and left performed the pest control work, and left . And it is highly likely that he locked the door when he left . And it is highly likely that he locked the door when he left . Wait, so does that mean that person Wait, so does that mean that person was in the dead Nori's apartment was in the dead Nori's apartment was in the dead Nori's apartment ? It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it ? It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it ? It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it ? I find myself ? I find myself ? I find myself thinking deeply about this part as well.
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thinking deeply about this part as well. thinking deeply about this part as well. Detective Patterson questioned the man Detective Patterson questioned the man Detective Patterson questioned the man , and he said he did , and he said he did , and he said he did n't enter the bedroom. He said he didn't even know n't enter the bedroom. He said he didn't even know n't enter the bedroom. He said he didn't even know Nori was there Nori was there Nori was there . And . And . And unfortunately, the pest control unfortunately, the pest control unfortunately, the pest control contractor says he doesn't remember whether the contractor says he doesn't remember whether the contractor says he doesn't remember whether the door was locked or unlocked when he entered the apartment. As if it were something completely door was locked or unlocked when he entered the apartment. As if it were something completely unexpected. The incident unexpected. The incident occurred and Yes, there is. occurred and Yes, there is. occurred and Yes, there is. So, I don't really understand So, I don't really understand So, I don't really understand what you mean by saying the fact that there were no signs of forced entry is meaningless what you mean by saying the fact that there were no signs of forced entry is meaningless what you mean by saying the fact that there were no signs of forced entry is meaningless . I don't . I don't . I don't understand at all. understand at all. understand at all. And you tested that man's DNA And you tested that man's DNA And you tested that man's DNA , right? , right? , right? You mean the pest control worker? You mean the pest control worker? You mean the pest control worker? Yes, they said it didn't match. Yes, they said it didn't match. Yes, they said it didn't match. So, the fact that someone could enter without a key means So, the fact that someone could enter without a key means the range of suspects can be expanded really wide the range of suspects can be expanded really wide . It might . It might not be someone who knew the victim. Maybe not be someone who knew the victim. Maybe that is why this case is so that is why this case is so that is why this case is so difficult to solve. difficult to solve. Detective Patterson pointed out that Nori Detective Patterson pointed out that Nori was covered with a blanket after she was murdered was covered with a blanket after she was murdered was covered with a blanket after she was murdered . He . He said that is a common behavior seen when someone cares about the victim. said that is a common behavior seen when someone cares about the victim. That's true, but a murderer That's true, but a murderer can also do that when they are ashamed of what they have done. The can also do that when they are ashamed of what they have done. The murder might not have been planned murder might not have been planned murder might not have been planned .
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. . Right. For example, like when someone Right. For example, like when someone Right. For example, like when someone enters with the intention of sexual assault and things spiral out of control enters with the intention of sexual assault and things spiral out of control . Right. The . Right. The interesting thing is that Carlos interesting thing is that Carlos met a friend by chance a few months ago. That friend had known Carlos's family and David for a long time known Carlos's family and David for a long time . That friend [Name] . That friend [Name] told Carlos that he recently met David and that David had started talking about Nori. David reportedly described Nori 's death 's death 's death as the result of a sexual accident that occurred that night as the result of a sexual accident that occurred that night as the result of a sexual accident that occurred that night . To my knowledge . To my knowledge , this , this , this is the first report confirming the fact of sexual assault. is the first report confirming the fact of sexual assault. is the first report confirming the fact of sexual assault. Previously, there had been no official confirmation from the police Previously, there had been no official confirmation from the police . Therefore, this was a fact that had not been . Therefore, this was a fact that had not been disclosed at the time this story emerged disclosed at the time this story emerged disclosed at the time this story emerged . . . Carlos informed Detective Patterson of this Carlos informed Detective Patterson of this , and , and , and Detective Patterson showed interest, stating, "In Detective Patterson showed interest, stating, "In Detective Patterson showed interest, stating, "In every instance I spoke with David, he every instance I spoke with David, he never described Nori's death as the result of a sexual accident in any of the numerous speculations he presented to the police."
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Since Detective Patterson is currently retired, he Since Detective Patterson is currently retired, he passed this information on to a current investigator passed this information on to a current investigator passed this information on to a current investigator . However, this information . However, this information . However, this information may not be very significant, as may not be very significant, as may not be very significant, as we heard this story indirectly we heard this story indirectly . . The friend who claimed to have heard this story from David The friend who claimed to have heard this story from David The friend who claimed to have heard this story from David refused to be interviewed by us refused to be interviewed by us refused to be interviewed by us . Even if such words . Even if such words . Even if such words were spoken, it wasn't a secret that she was were spoken, it wasn't a secret that she was were spoken, it wasn't a secret that she was found in bed wearing only underwear found in bed wearing only underwear . Perhaps more information will . Perhaps more information will become known, or As it was shared with friends and family become known, or As it was shared with friends and family , they , they might have reached a strange conclusion because it didn't seem like David was a victim of a robbery might have reached a strange conclusion because it didn't seem like David was a victim of a robbery . It's not a completely absurd . It's not a completely absurd . It's not a completely absurd conclusion, is it? It conclusion, is it? It conclusion, is it? It wasn't a robbery, but I wasn't a robbery, but I get the feeling something is missing. I know Nori get the feeling something is missing. I know Nori took out the camera that night, but it took out the camera that night, but it doesn't appear in the CCTV footage when she returned home doesn't appear in the CCTV footage when she returned home . She was carrying something like a bag . She was carrying something like a bag . She was carrying something like a bag . So it could have . So it could have . So it could have been inside, or it could have been been inside, or it could have been been inside, or it could have been stolen. stolen. stolen. One thing I was curious about is why One thing I was curious about is why One thing I was curious about is why Detective Patterson talked for so long about the camera or Detective Patterson talked for so long about the camera or Detective Patterson talked for so long about the camera or something missing something missing . I . I also wondered if he might have left it in a taxi also wondered if he might have left it in a taxi also wondered if he might have left it in a taxi .
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. . Oh, and cell Oh, and cell Oh, and cell phones, too. Cell phones are phones, too. Cell phones are phones, too. Cell phones are a bit easier to track, you know. We have to find the owner a bit easier to track, you know. We have to find the owner . . . Cameras just vanish in a flash; whoever Cameras just vanish in a flash; whoever Cameras just vanish in a flash; whoever finds them keeps them. They're also easy to finds them keeps them. They're also easy to finds them keeps them. They're also easy to pawn, sell, or get pawn, sell, or get pawn, sell, or get rid of. rid of. rid of. My CyberShot camera was My CyberShot camera was My CyberShot camera was stolen when I was in high school. I stolen when I was in high school. I stolen when I was in high school. I don't want to talk about it. It's don't want to talk about it. It's don't want to talk about it. It's still a painful memory. still a painful memory. And you know, if this was And you know, if this was because of the camera, why would he because of the camera, why would he have killed her? Could it be? Why would they commit sexual assault have killed her? Could it be? Why would they commit sexual assault have killed her? Could it be? Why would they commit sexual assault ? ? Unless there was something on the camera—for example, evidence of an affair, as we discussed. But what if the photo shows the person who was with her that night coming to pick her up? what if the photo shows the person who was with her that night coming to pick her up? For instance, their attire might be For instance, their attire might be For instance, their attire might be captured, serving as proof that they were together in the lobby captured, serving as proof that they were together in the lobby . It could also serve as evidence that they were together when she went elsewhere. I’ve serve as evidence that they were together when she went elsewhere. I’ve considered that possibility. It is entirely plausible. considered that possibility. It is entirely plausible. Without a camera, we wouldn't know what was captured there know what was captured there know what was captured there . And honestly . And honestly . And honestly , I’ve thought about a darker theory as well , I’ve thought about a darker theory as well , I’ve thought about a darker theory as well . What if someone . What if someone took a photo of Nori after killing her, or took a photo of Nori after killing her, or simply took it as a souvenir simply took it as a souvenir simply took it as a souvenir ?
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? ? Like a trophy? Like a trophy? Like a trophy? Yes, if they took it, we would Yes, if they took it, we would n't know exactly why. What I keep thinking about and n't know exactly why. What I keep thinking about and can't shake off is can't shake off is can't shake off is how massive that apartment complex was how massive that apartment complex was . I wonder . I wonder . I wonder how thoroughly they investigated everyone inside how thoroughly they investigated everyone inside how thoroughly they investigated everyone inside . Perhaps the . Perhaps the . Perhaps the killer wasn't caught on the surveillance cameras killer wasn't caught on the surveillance cameras killer wasn't caught on the surveillance cameras . Because they were already . Because they were already . Because they were already there. there. there. They They might have known Nori's habits They They might have known Nori's habits They They might have known Nori's habits . They likely knew that Nori . They likely knew that Nori . They likely knew that Nori never locked the door never locked the door never locked the door . They probably also knew there were . They probably also knew there were . They probably also knew there were no cameras in the hallway no cameras in the hallway no cameras in the hallway . . . Detective Patterson investigated that possibility as well Detective Patterson investigated that possibility as well Detective Patterson investigated that possibility as well . He said that investigators went around the . He said that investigators went around the . He said that investigators went around the floor where Nori lived and floor where Nori lived and questioned neighbors and various people living on the same floor questioned neighbors and various people living on the same floor . . . The police also collected DNA from several people connected to the building, including the security guard who let Carlos and Liz into The police also collected DNA from several people connected to the building, including the security guard who let Carlos and Liz into The police also collected DNA from several people connected to the building, including the security guard who let Carlos and Liz into Nori's home Nori's home . I don't know . I don't know who the others are, or the exact number who the others are, or the exact number who the others are, or the exact number . I visited every house on the floor where she lived . I visited every house on the floor where she lived . I visited every house on the floor where she lived . You . You . You can tell just by hearing that can tell just by hearing that . It is truly a relief. From what I . It is truly a relief. From what I . It is truly a relief. From what I heard, there are over 1,100 households heard, there are over 1,100 households heard, there are over 1,100 households . The . The . The population of the village where I grew up population of the village where I grew up population of the village where I grew up is 1,600, so considering the entire population of Wakaruasa, that is 1,600, so considering the entire population of Wakaruasa, that is a massive number. It is as if the people who need to be tested, talked to, or contacted represent the entire resident of Wakaruasa entire resident of Wakaruasa entire resident of Wakaruasa . That is a truly . That is a truly . That is a truly large number for a small village.
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large number for a small village. large number for a small village. And the point is that they And the point is that they And the point is that they didn't start an investigation immediately. didn't start an investigation immediately. didn't start an investigation immediately. According to Carlos, According to Carlos, According to Carlos, one resident who committed suicide was tested a few years one resident who committed suicide was tested a few years one resident who committed suicide was tested a few years later later . It seems they investigated just in case there was a connection. . It seems they investigated just in case there was a connection. However, there does However, there does not appear to be a direct link. not appear to be a direct link. not appear to be a direct link. Patterson personally remembers Patterson personally remembers Patterson personally remembers collecting DNA samples from about 10 people, and collecting DNA samples from about 10 people, and according to later reports, according to later reports, more than 20 people were ultimately tested more than 20 people were ultimately tested . But . But . But again, since the building is so large, I again, since the building is so large, I suspect there might have been someone hiding out of sight suspect there might have been someone hiding out of sight . That DNA will be a . That DNA will be a . That DNA will be a crucial key to solving this case crucial key to solving this case crucial key to solving this case . I . I . I sincerely sincerely sincerely believe it is only a matter of time. CODIS We used believe it is only a matter of time. CODIS We used believe it is only a matter of time. CODIS We used samples to obtain the profiles needed for analysis, but there were samples to obtain the profiles needed for analysis, but there were samples to obtain the profiles needed for analysis, but there were always always always samples left that could be used for IgG analysis samples left that could be used for IgG analysis . Before . Before . Before Dr. Patterson retired in 2017 Dr. Patterson retired in 2017 Dr. Patterson retired in 2017 , he commissioned those samples to the Parabon Nano , he commissioned those samples to the Parabon Nano , he commissioned those samples to the Parabon Nano Lab for analysis. Lab for analysis. Lab for analysis. At that time, IgG analysis methods had not yet been fully At that time, IgG analysis methods had not yet been fully developed. We were developed. We were developed. We were performing things like phenotypic analysis performing things like phenotypic analysis performing things like phenotypic analysis , but it could be considered the early stages of IgG analysis , but it could be considered the early stages of IgG analysis , but it could be considered the early stages of IgG analysis . Back . Back . Back then, we were told to wait then, we were told to wait then, we were told to wait . This was because we had to exhaust all the samples for any analysis we performed, as those were all we had left . This was because we had to exhaust all the samples for any analysis we performed, as those were all we had left . Technology . Technology needed to advance further. Since needed to advance further. Since needed to advance further. Since Dr. Patterson has retired, he likely Dr. Patterson has retired, he likely doesn't know what happened to the samples after that . It has already been . It has already been . It has already been nearly 10 years. There nearly 10 years. There must surely be a way to do something. Please, please! I earnestly hope this problem is resolved.
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For the sake of everyone who has worked to solve it, if only for that reason . No one has wanted her case solved as desperately as Nori's family has for the past 16 years . No one has wanted her case solved as desperately as Nori's family has for the past 16 years . Carlos did everything in his power to uncover the truth. Chasing clues, He did everything in his power to uncover the truth. Chasing clues, He called investigators and called investigators and tried to solve the case on his own for a long time. Eventually, tried to solve the case on his own for a long time. Eventually, he received psychotherapy and he received psychotherapy and began helping others overcome their trauma began helping others overcome their trauma . He says that the . He says that the . He says that the grief of losing Nori no longer dominates him as it used to grief of losing Nori no longer dominates him as it used to . Nori and Carlos's sister, . Nori and Carlos's sister, Liz, took a slightly different path Liz, took a slightly different path Liz, took a slightly different path . She went on to study criminal justice and . She went on to study criminal justice and . She went on to study criminal justice and forensic science forensic science forensic science . She . She . She said she had always been interested in the field, but said she had always been interested in the field, but said she had always been interested in the field, but Nori's case served as the Nori's case served as the inspiration for the path she chose inspiration for the path she chose inspiration for the path she chose . . . Although she Although she Although she found a way to move forward, she says that learning to live without Nori is found a way to move forward, she says that learning to live without Nori is different from accepting the fact that no one was held responsible for her death different from accepting the fact that no one was held responsible for her death . While DNA . While DNA . While DNA could be the key to solving this case, could be the key to solving this case, could be the key to solving this case, Liz and Carlos believe that Liz and Carlos believe that Liz and Carlos believe that someone around Nori knows more about the incident someone around Nori knows more about the incident someone around Nori knows more about the incident than they have said than they have said than they have said .
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. . Therefore, the answer Therefore, the answer Therefore, the answer may not be revealed by evidence alone may not be revealed by evidence alone may not be revealed by evidence alone . Perhaps it lies . Perhaps it lies . Perhaps it lies with someone listening to this broadcast right now with someone listening to this broadcast right now with someone listening to this broadcast right now . Please pay attention if you . Please pay attention if you . Please pay attention if you were in the Washington D.C. area in 2009. were in the Washington D.C. area in 2009. were in the Washington D.C. area in 2009. Even if you were Even if you were Even if you were not there yourself, please pass this not there yourself, please pass this not there yourself, please pass this broadcast on to anyone who was there at the time broadcast on to anyone who was there at the time broadcast on to anyone who was there at the time . 2009 If you were at one of the . 2009 If you were at one of the . 2009 If you were at one of the DC clubs Nori visited on Halloween night, please DC clubs Nori visited on Halloween night, please contact me. Even if it contact me. Even if it isn't crucial evidence, you might have isn't crucial evidence, you might have photos or videos from that night photos or videos from that night photos or videos from that night . You never know . You never know . You never know ! The club names are ! The club names are ! The club names are Rumba Cafe, Russian House, and Rumba Cafe, Russian House, and Rumba Cafe, Russian House, and Bravo Bravo. Please also contact me if you lived or worked Bravo Bravo. Please also contact me if you lived or worked in the Woodner Building where Nori lived in the Woodner Building where Nori lived . It would be even better if you remember what happened on . It would be even better if you remember what happened on October 31 or November 1, 2019. October 31 or November 1, 2019. Honestly, anything from around that time is Honestly, anything from around that time is fine fine fine . Did anything happen in that building . Did anything happen in that building . Did anything happen in that building ? Was there anything strange ? Was there anything strange ? Was there anything strange ? Did ? Did ? Did anyone stand out? I had to anyone stand out? I had to change many names for privacy reasons in this episode, but please let me know if you change many names for privacy reasons in this episode, but please let me know if you recognize the people I mentioned, or if you had any recognize the people I mentioned, or if you had any recognize the people I mentioned, or if you had any contact with them or contact with them or contact with them or heard anything from them heard anything from them heard anything from them . What you know or . What you know or . What you know or heard heard heard might be trivial. You might not have reported it because it sounded like a rumor might be trivial. You might not have reported it because it sounded like a rumor might be trivial. You might not have reported it because it sounded like a rumor or you thought it wasn't important, or you or you thought it wasn't important, or you might have assumed the detectives already knew. However, even a might have assumed the detectives already knew. However, even a single tiny clue can [help] an investigator This single tiny clue can [help] an investigator This could be the crucial evidence they have been waiting for. Please call the Police Department ( MPD) at 202-727-9099 or MPD) at 202-727-9099 or email [email protected] as always
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Summary
This true crime segment discusses the unsolved 2009 "Salsa Queen" murder in Washington D.C., focusing on the challenges investigators faced due to the crime occurring on Halloween night amidst masked revelers. The primary takeaway is the potential significance of a previously unreported clue, highlighting that a single tip could finally solve the case of Nori Amaya.