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The United States Secret Service was The United States Secret Service was created 161 years ago when Abraham created 161 years ago when Abraham created 161 years ago when Abraham Lincoln signed it into law. That same Lincoln signed it into law. That same Lincoln signed it into law. That same day, he was fatally wounded by an day, he was fatally wounded by an day, he was fatally wounded by an assassin. Since then, the services assassin. Since then, the services assassin. Since then, the services mission has evolved from catching mission has evolved from catching mission has evolved from catching counterfeits to protecting the lives of counterfeits to protecting the lives of counterfeits to protecting the lives of presidents, their families, and other presidents, their families, and other presidents, their families, and other top officials. Today, in the age of AI, top officials. Today, in the age of AI, top officials. Today, in the age of AI, the threats are not just from a lone the threats are not just from a lone the threats are not just from a lone assassin's bullet, but autonomous attack assassin's bullet, but autonomous attack assassin's bullet, but autonomous attack drones. The US is a country that feels drones. The US is a country that feels drones. The US is a country that feels on edge. The Secret Service told us the on edge. The Secret Service told us the on edge. The Secret Service told us the number of threats is way up against its number of threats is way up against its number of threats is way up against its protectees, especially President Trump. protectees, especially President Trump. protectees, especially President Trump. He has been the target of more He has been the target of more He has been the target of more assassination attempts than any other assassination attempts than any other assassination attempts than any other president. So, we wanted to speak to the president. So, we wanted to speak to the president. So, we wanted to speak to the director of the agency, Shawn Curran. director of the agency, Shawn Curran. director of the agency, Shawn Curran. He's been an agent for 25 years and is He's been an agent for 25 years and is He's been an agent for 25 years and is now leading the Secret Service that's in now leading the Secret Service that's in now leading the Secret Service that's in the line of fire. the line of fire. the line of fire. How would you describe the current How would you describe the current How would you describe the current threat environment in this country? threat environment in this country? threat environment in this country? >> It's like we've never seen before. The >> It's like we've never seen before. The >> It's like we've never seen before. The threats on our full-time protectes are threats on our full-time protectes are threats on our full-time protectes are up just over 40% up just over 40% up just over 40% since they than they were last year.

since they than they were last year. since they than they were last year. That's a massive increase. That's a massive increase. That's a massive increase. >> Sean Curran is the 28th director of the >> Sean Curran is the 28th director of the >> Sean Curran is the 28th director of the United States Secret Service. He told us United States Secret Service. He told us United States Secret Service. He told us that since January, there have been that since January, there have been that since January, there have been 10,000 threats on the people they 10,000 threats on the people they 10,000 threats on the people they protect. 10,000 threat cases just this protect. 10,000 threat cases just this protect. 10,000 threat cases just this year year year >> and the year's not over. >> and the year's not over. >> and the year's not over. >> Curran and his deputy director, Matthew >> Curran and his deputy director, Matthew >> Curran and his deputy director, Matthew Quinn, spoke to 60 Minutes in their Quinn, spoke to 60 Minutes in their Quinn, spoke to 60 Minutes in their first joint interview. first joint interview. first joint interview. >> What's driving that? >> What's driving that? >> What's driving that? >> Look, I think a lot of it has to do with >> Look, I think a lot of it has to do with >> Look, I think a lot of it has to do with the internet. You know, people are more the internet. You know, people are more the internet. You know, people are more accessible. Uh, information is more accessible. Uh, information is more accessible. Uh, information is more accessible. Um, it's it's definitely new accessible. Um, it's it's definitely new accessible. Um, it's it's definitely new to us. In the last 2 and a half years, to us. In the last 2 and a half years, to us. In the last 2 and a half years, there have been three known attempts on there have been three known attempts on there have been three known attempts on President Trump's life. At a campaign President Trump's life. At a campaign President Trump's life. At a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, >> his Florida golf course, and the White >> his Florida golf course, and the White >> his Florida golf course, and the White House correspondents dinner, where a House correspondents dinner, where a House correspondents dinner, where a shooter breached the security perimeter. shooter breached the security perimeter. shooter breached the security perimeter. President Trump is one of the most President Trump is one of the most President Trump is one of the most polarizing political figures in American polarizing political figures in American polarizing political figures in American history. Is that in some way leading to history. Is that in some way leading to history. Is that in some way leading to the increase in these threats? the increase in these threats? the increase in these threats? >> We are an a-olitical organization. We're >> We are an a-olitical organization. We're >> We are an a-olitical organization. We're here to protect who we're we're sworn to here to protect who we're we're sworn to here to protect who we're we're sworn to protect.

protect. protect. >> Look, I would say there's people on both >> Look, I would say there's people on both >> Look, I would say there's people on both sides of the aisle that either love or sides of the aisle that either love or sides of the aisle that either love or hate any president. I think the biggest hate any president. I think the biggest hate any president. I think the biggest factor we're dealing with today is uh factor we're dealing with today is uh factor we're dealing with today is uh mental health issues for sure. And more mental health issues for sure. And more mental health issues for sure. And more people are being pushed over the edge in people are being pushed over the edge in people are being pushed over the edge in either direction. either direction. either direction. >> The world is different than what it was >> The world is different than what it was >> The world is different than what it was 20 years ago. You know, social media 20 years ago. You know, social media 20 years ago. You know, social media changes people. changes people. changes people. >> Do more threats come from the left or >> Do more threats come from the left or >> Do more threats come from the left or right? right? right? >> We don't weigh it that way. uh we we >> We don't weigh it that way. uh we we >> We don't weigh it that way. uh we we just look at you know who who is you just look at you know who who is you just look at you know who who is you know making the threat. We investigate know making the threat. We investigate know making the threat. We investigate it and we run it down each and every it and we run it down each and every it and we run it down each and every threat. threat. threat. >> Research by the center for strategic and >> Research by the center for strategic and >> Research by the center for strategic and international studies showed a spike in international studies showed a spike in international studies showed a spike in incidents at the local and national incidents at the local and national incidents at the local and national level from the left in 2025. level from the left in 2025. level from the left in 2025. It was the first time left-wing attacks It was the first time left-wing attacks It was the first time left-wing attacks have been higher than right-wing attacks have been higher than right-wing attacks have been higher than right-wing attacks in 30 years. This year that trend has in 30 years. This year that trend has in 30 years. This year that trend has reversed with more attacks coming from reversed with more attacks coming from reversed with more attacks coming from the right so far. 8 months into a war the right so far. 8 months into a war the right so far. 8 months into a war with Iran, the threats from outside the with Iran, the threats from outside the with Iran, the threats from outside the country are also growing. They have country are also growing. They have country are also growing. They have vowed revenge. How do you deal with that vowed revenge. How do you deal with that vowed revenge. How do you deal with that when you're in charge of protecting the when you're in charge of protecting the when you're in charge of protecting the president?

president? president? >> Turn on the TV and you can see the >> Turn on the TV and you can see the >> Turn on the TV and you can see the funeral where there are massive banners funeral where there are massive banners funeral where there are massive banners saying kill President Trump. So, do we saying kill President Trump. So, do we saying kill President Trump. So, do we recognize the threat environment is recognize the threat environment is recognize the threat environment is increased? Absolutely. How we do it and increased? Absolutely. How we do it and increased? Absolutely. How we do it and how we change, that's where we prefer to how we change, that's where we prefer to how we change, that's where we prefer to stay in the in the background. stay in the in the background. stay in the in the background. >> Few people know the risks more than >> Few people know the risks more than >> Few people know the risks more than Director Curran, who just two years ago Director Curran, who just two years ago Director Curran, who just two years ago was the lead agent protecting President was the lead agent protecting President was the lead agent protecting President Trump when he was campaigning on July Trump when he was campaigning on July Trump when he was campaigning on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania. Curran was among the agents who shielded Curran was among the agents who shielded President Trump when Thomas Krooks fired President Trump when Thomas Krooks fired President Trump when Thomas Krooks fired eight rounds at the stage from a rooftop eight rounds at the stage from a rooftop eight rounds at the stage from a rooftop 155 yards away. 155 yards away. 155 yards away. >> You've not talked a lot about what >> You've not talked a lot about what >> You've not talked a lot about what happened in Butler until now. happened in Butler until now. happened in Butler until now. >> I haven't really reflected on it. I've >> I haven't really reflected on it. I've >> I haven't really reflected on it. I've kept myself busy. I've I've just worked kept myself busy. I've I've just worked kept myself busy. I've I've just worked and worked. I've gone from assignment to and worked. I've gone from assignment to and worked. I've gone from assignment to assignment so that I've probably taken assignment so that I've probably taken assignment so that I've probably taken my mind off of it. It's what we train to my mind off of it. It's what we train to my mind off of it. It's what we train to do. It's what you never want to do. What do. It's what you never want to do. What do. It's what you never want to do. What goes through your mind as the lead goes through your mind as the lead goes through your mind as the lead agent?

agent? agent? >> I mean, we were face to face and then I >> I mean, we were face to face and then I >> I mean, we were face to face and then I have to think about the next move. You have to think about the next move. You have to think about the next move. You don't have time to think about anything don't have time to think about anything don't have time to think about anything else. I am his vest. You know, I wear my else. I am his vest. You know, I wear my else. I am his vest. You know, I wear my vest for him. It's not for me. vest for him. It's not for me. vest for him. It's not for me. >> You were the lead agent in charge. Is it >> You were the lead agent in charge. Is it >> You were the lead agent in charge. Is it true that you had requested additional true that you had requested additional true that you had requested additional resources and were denied? resources and were denied? resources and were denied? >> I'd rather not get into the past. Um, I >> I'd rather not get into the past. Um, I >> I'd rather not get into the past. Um, I will tell you that I did request will tell you that I did request will tell you that I did request additional resources and I'll leave it additional resources and I'll leave it additional resources and I'll leave it at that. A congressional hearing led at that. A congressional hearing led at that. A congressional hearing led then director Kimberly Cheetel to resign then director Kimberly Cheetel to resign then director Kimberly Cheetel to resign over the breakdown of security that day. over the breakdown of security that day. over the breakdown of security that day. The newly reelected Donald Trump put his The newly reelected Donald Trump put his The newly reelected Donald Trump put his lead agent in charge of the Secret lead agent in charge of the Secret lead agent in charge of the Secret Service. This past June, the final Service. This past June, the final Service. This past June, the final government report on Butler was government report on Butler was government report on Butler was released. The Inspector General report released. The Inspector General report released. The Inspector General report found, quote, "The Secret Service missed found, quote, "The Secret Service missed found, quote, "The Secret Service missed multiple opportunities to detect, multiple opportunities to detect, multiple opportunities to detect, prevent, and disrupt the assassination prevent, and disrupt the assassination prevent, and disrupt the assassination attempt. attempt. attempt. This was a massive failure by many This was a massive failure by many This was a massive failure by many accounts. Can you assure the American accounts. Can you assure the American accounts. Can you assure the American people as the director that something people as the director that something people as the director that something like this won't happen again? like this won't happen again? like this won't happen again? >> Yes.

>> Yes. >> Yes. >> You're convinced? >> You're convinced? >> You're convinced? >> I am convinced. >> I am convinced. >> I am convinced. >> The agency at every level has been >> The agency at every level has been >> The agency at every level has been dangerously understaffed for years. Are dangerously understaffed for years. Are dangerously understaffed for years. Are you there now on the staffing? you there now on the staffing? you there now on the staffing? >> We have 942 people in training today. If >> We have 942 people in training today. If >> We have 942 people in training today. If you looked back last year, there was you looked back last year, there was you looked back last year, there was maybe 200 in training. Since Butler, the maybe 200 in training. Since Butler, the maybe 200 in training. Since Butler, the Secret Service has expanded the Secret Service has expanded the Secret Service has expanded the formidable security footprint that formidable security footprint that formidable security footprint that surrounds the president. We saw that at surrounds the president. We saw that at surrounds the president. We saw that at the Secret Services training center in the Secret Services training center in the Secret Services training center in Maryland. With the president back on the Maryland. With the president back on the Maryland. With the president back on the campaign trail ahead of the midterm campaign trail ahead of the midterm campaign trail ahead of the midterm elections, elections, elections, Curran has added new training to avoid Curran has added new training to avoid Curran has added new training to avoid the mistakes of Butler. Come on. Down, the mistakes of Butler. Come on. Down, the mistakes of Butler. Come on. Down, down, DOWN. >> WELL, this is the so-called beast, >> WELL, this is the so-called beast, right? right? right? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I mean, >> Yeah. I mean, >> Yeah. I mean, >> even the president's limousine is >> even the president's limousine is >> even the president's limousine is getting regular updates. Most of them getting regular updates. Most of them getting regular updates. Most of them classified. classified. classified. >> Oh my god, it's so thick. Why is it so >> Oh my god, it's so thick. Why is it so >> Oh my god, it's so thick. Why is it so thick? thick? thick? >> Well, it's it's it's the ballistics that >> Well, it's it's it's the ballistics that >> Well, it's it's it's the ballistics that are built into it. Go ahead. I got the are built into it. Go ahead. I got the are built into it. Go ahead. I got the door.

door. door. >> Okay. The vehicle weighs up to 10 tons >> Okay. The vehicle weighs up to 10 tons >> Okay. The vehicle weighs up to 10 tons with bulletproof glass and defensive with bulletproof glass and defensive with bulletproof glass and defensive counter measures. So is and is my counter measures. So is and is my counter measures. So is and is my understanding too like with the beast understanding too like with the beast understanding too like with the beast that you could it will protect against a that you could it will protect against a that you could it will protect against a chemical weapons attack too. chemical weapons attack too. chemical weapons attack too. >> Um I don't want to get into its >> Um I don't want to get into its >> Um I don't want to get into its capabilities but uh it's it can do a capabilities but uh it's it can do a capabilities but uh it's it can do a lot. lot. lot. >> Director Curran added this medical >> Director Curran added this medical >> Director Curran added this medical response truck because of what he saw in response truck because of what he saw in response truck because of what he saw in Butler. It houses a trauma unit and a Butler. It houses a trauma unit and a Butler. It houses a trauma unit and a field surgeon ready to treat gunshot field surgeon ready to treat gunshot field surgeon ready to treat gunshot wounds. wounds. wounds. And this intimidating looking armored And this intimidating looking armored And this intimidating looking armored personnel carrier is new to the personnel carrier is new to the personnel carrier is new to the president's motorcade. president's motorcade. president's motorcade. >> Why would you need a vehicle this big? >> Why would you need a vehicle this big? >> Why would you need a vehicle this big? >> When you look at some of the significant >> When you look at some of the significant >> When you look at some of the significant civil disturbance events we've had, how civil disturbance events we've had, how civil disturbance events we've had, how do you move people? You look at getting do you move people? You look at getting do you move people? You look at getting teams to the capital during the January teams to the capital during the January teams to the capital during the January 6th event. This provides us the ability 6th event. This provides us the ability 6th event. This provides us the ability to get people where they need to be and to get people where they need to be and to get people where they need to be and take care of them, keep them safe. take care of them, keep them safe. take care of them, keep them safe. >> Did you have this for January 6th? No. >> Did you have this for January 6th? No. >> Did you have this for January 6th? No. Now, the Secret Service is preparing for Now, the Secret Service is preparing for Now, the Secret Service is preparing for a new threat, unlike any scene in its a new threat, unlike any scene in its a new threat, unlike any scene in its history.

history. history. >> Last week, the director left >> Last week, the director left >> Last week, the director left headquarters to personally test counter headquarters to personally test counter headquarters to personally test counter drone ammunition. drone ammunition. drone ammunition. >> Deputy Director Quinn is leading the >> Deputy Director Quinn is leading the >> Deputy Director Quinn is leading the AY's new multi-million dollar program to AY's new multi-million dollar program to AY's new multi-million dollar program to develop offensive and defensive drone develop offensive and defensive drone develop offensive and defensive drone capabilities. capabilities. capabilities. >> What you're seeing right now is one of >> What you're seeing right now is one of >> What you're seeing right now is one of our fixed wing platforms. our fixed wing platforms. our fixed wing platforms. This has capability to stay up for a This has capability to stay up for a This has capability to stay up for a significant period of time, provide significant period of time, provide significant period of time, provide realtime situational awareness for for realtime situational awareness for for realtime situational awareness for for everybody on the ground. everybody on the ground. everybody on the ground. >> The war in Ukraine has become a testing >> The war in Ukraine has become a testing >> The war in Ukraine has become a testing ground for the weaponization of drones, ground for the weaponization of drones, ground for the weaponization of drones, and that hasn't gone unnoticed by the and that hasn't gone unnoticed by the and that hasn't gone unnoticed by the Secret Service. What are you learning Secret Service. What are you learning Secret Service. What are you learning from the battlefield in Ukraine? from the battlefield in Ukraine? from the battlefield in Ukraine? >> Everything. We just had teams come back >> Everything. We just had teams come back >> Everything. We just had teams come back about two weeks ago. They are on the about two weeks ago. They are on the about two weeks ago. They are on the front. They're on the battlefield with front. They're on the battlefield with front. They're on the battlefield with this. We know that technology is going this. We know that technology is going this. We know that technology is going to hit the homeland at some point. So, to hit the homeland at some point. So, to hit the homeland at some point. So, we're using lessons learned there to we're using lessons learned there to we're using lessons learned there to build our program and make sure we're build our program and make sure we're build our program and make sure we're ahead of it before it gets here. ahead of it before it gets here. ahead of it before it gets here. >> You mean you think that drone attacks >> You mean you think that drone attacks >> You mean you think that drone attacks will happen here in the United States?

will happen here in the United States? will happen here in the United States? >> We have to plan for it. We have to >> We have to plan for it. We have to >> We have to plan for it. We have to assume that that that it's possible. Um, assume that that that it's possible. Um, assume that that that it's possible. Um, the second we're not, we're going to get the second we're not, we're going to get the second we're not, we're going to get caught flatfooted. caught flatfooted. caught flatfooted. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> There it goes. >> There it goes. >> There it goes. >> There it goes. The drone hunter. Okay. >> There it goes. The drone hunter. Okay. >> There it goes. The drone hunter. Okay. They showed us the drone hunter, a They showed us the drone hunter, a They showed us the drone hunter, a weapon which uses AI and radar to weapon which uses AI and radar to weapon which uses AI and radar to disable enemy drones and capture them disable enemy drones and capture them disable enemy drones and capture them with a net. with a net. with a net. >> Locked. >> Locked. >> Locked. >> You heard the operator just say locked. >> You heard the operator just say locked. >> You heard the operator just say locked. What that means is that drone hunter What that means is that drone hunter What that means is that drone hunter just locked on to the offending drone. just locked on to the offending drone. just locked on to the offending drone. So now it's going to start hunting. So now it's going to start hunting. So now it's going to start hunting. >> Whoa. See now? So now it's See now? So now it's >> what you see is the drone hanging from >> what you see is the drone hanging from >> what you see is the drone hanging from the drone hunter. So the bad guy drone the drone hunter. So the bad guy drone the drone hunter. So the bad guy drone is now captured. is now captured. is now captured. >> It's going to take it to a predetermined >> It's going to take it to a predetermined >> It's going to take it to a predetermined safe area. safe area. safe area. >> The concern is that a small rudimentary >> The concern is that a small rudimentary >> The concern is that a small rudimentary drone like this one could be weaponized drone like this one could be weaponized drone like this one could be weaponized with explosives and do serious damage to with explosives and do serious damage to with explosives and do serious damage to a large concert, sporting event, or a large concert, sporting event, or a large concert, sporting event, or campaign rally. campaign rally. campaign rally. >> Just this much of C4 is plenty enough to >> Just this much of C4 is plenty enough to >> Just this much of C4 is plenty enough to do a lot of damage. So it doesn't have do a lot of damage. So it doesn't have do a lot of damage. So it doesn't have to be a big drone. You're saying just to be a big drone. You're saying just to be a big drone. You're saying just even a small amount of explosives could even a small amount of explosives could even a small amount of explosives could be be be >> could cause a problem.

>> could cause a problem. >> could cause a problem. >> 60 Minutes has learned the Secret >> 60 Minutes has learned the Secret >> 60 Minutes has learned the Secret Service took down a drone using Service took down a drone using Service took down a drone using electronic jamming equipment at the Army electronic jamming equipment at the Army electronic jamming equipment at the Army Navy game in Baltimore last December, Navy game in Baltimore last December, Navy game in Baltimore last December, where the president and members of where the president and members of where the president and members of Congress were in attendance. Congress were in attendance. Congress were in attendance. Despite all the new technology, the Despite all the new technology, the Despite all the new technology, the threat of an attack by a swarm of drones threat of an attack by a swarm of drones threat of an attack by a swarm of drones on a place like the White House is still on a place like the White House is still on a place like the White House is still an issue. Swarms are a huge problem and an issue. Swarms are a huge problem and an issue. Swarms are a huge problem and a big threat. I'd love to tell you the a big threat. I'd love to tell you the a big threat. I'd love to tell you the swarm problem solved. It's not. swarm problem solved. It's not. swarm problem solved. It's not. >> I will tell you that at the White House, >> I will tell you that at the White House, >> I will tell you that at the White House, White House is the safest place on White House is the safest place on White House is the safest place on Earth. Earth. Earth. >> The president posted an AI picture of >> The president posted an AI picture of >> The president posted an AI picture of sort of a drone and a bunch of drones on sort of a drone and a bunch of drones on sort of a drone and a bunch of drones on top of what would be the new White House top of what would be the new White House top of what would be the new White House ballroom. Is that what the future's ballroom. Is that what the future's ballroom. Is that what the future's going to look like? going to look like? going to look like? >> Yes. We're deploying equipment >> Yes. We're deploying equipment >> Yes. We're deploying equipment everywhere that uh makes the most sense everywhere that uh makes the most sense everywhere that uh makes the most sense to ensure that the White House remains to ensure that the White House remains to ensure that the White House remains the safest place in the world. the safest place in the world. the safest place in the world. >> But do we need to militarize all of >> But do we need to militarize all of >> But do we need to militarize all of Washington DC in order to protect the Washington DC in order to protect the Washington DC in order to protect the president?

president? president? >> No. The whole goal of our job is to >> No. The whole goal of our job is to >> No. The whole goal of our job is to provide maximum resources without the provide maximum resources without the provide maximum resources without the appearance of overwhelming overt appearance of overwhelming overt appearance of overwhelming overt militaristic sight. There's ways to do militaristic sight. There's ways to do militaristic sight. There's ways to do it and still let Americans maintain it and still let Americans maintain it and still let Americans maintain their freedoms and still provide their freedoms and still provide their freedoms and still provide protection at the highest level. protection at the highest level. protection at the highest level. >> That protection extends to the new Air >> That protection extends to the new Air >> That protection extends to the new Air Force One, a 747 donated by the Middle Force One, a 747 donated by the Middle Force One, a 747 donated by the Middle Eastern country of Qatar. Adding Eastern country of Qatar. Adding Eastern country of Qatar. Adding security enhancements to that plane cost security enhancements to that plane cost security enhancements to that plane cost the US nearly $400 million, according to the US nearly $400 million, according to the US nearly $400 million, according to the US Air Force. Does the Secret the US Air Force. Does the Secret the US Air Force. Does the Secret Service fully trust a plane that was Service fully trust a plane that was Service fully trust a plane that was given by a foreign government? given by a foreign government? given by a foreign government? >> We trust that plane >> We trust that plane >> We trust that plane >> because you checked it all out. >> because you checked it all out. >> because you checked it all out. >> I won't get into that, but you can you >> I won't get into that, but you can you >> I won't get into that, but you can you can make your assumptions. can make your assumptions. can make your assumptions. >> Despite his confidence, the Secret >> Despite his confidence, the Secret >> Despite his confidence, the Secret Service would not let the president fly Service would not let the president fly Service would not let the president fly home on that plane from Turkey in July home on that plane from Turkey in July home on that plane from Turkey in July after intelligence reports of an Iranian after intelligence reports of an Iranian after intelligence reports of an Iranian plot to fire a missile at the plot to fire a missile at the plot to fire a missile at the presidential jet. Instead, the Secret presidential jet. Instead, the Secret presidential jet. Instead, the Secret Service pulled off a complicated scheme Service pulled off a complicated scheme Service pulled off a complicated scheme using the old Air Force One. They snuck using the old Air Force One. They snuck using the old Air Force One. They snuck President Trump into a catering truck.

President Trump into a catering truck. President Trump into a catering truck. Cabinet members, White House staff, the Cabinet members, White House staff, the Cabinet members, White House staff, the press, and Secret Service agents were press, and Secret Service agents were press, and Secret Service agents were left on the decoy plane. So, when the left on the decoy plane. So, when the left on the decoy plane. So, when the president said that it was a Secret president said that it was a Secret president said that it was a Secret Service decision to use a decoy plane Service decision to use a decoy plane Service decision to use a decoy plane when leaving the NATO summit in Turkey when leaving the NATO summit in Turkey when leaving the NATO summit in Turkey this summer, why did the Secret Service this summer, why did the Secret Service this summer, why did the Secret Service make that decision? Look, that's not the make that decision? Look, that's not the make that decision? Look, that's not the first time we've done that. Um, we wish first time we've done that. Um, we wish first time we've done that. Um, we wish that wasn't reported because that takes that wasn't reported because that takes that wasn't reported because that takes some of our tactics away from being able some of our tactics away from being able some of our tactics away from being able to do something similar again. Um, to do something similar again. Um, to do something similar again. Um, certainly wasn't the first time we we we certainly wasn't the first time we we we certainly wasn't the first time we we we did something like that. did something like that. did something like that. >> You're telling me the president's been >> You're telling me the president's been >> You're telling me the president's been on a decoy plane before? on a decoy plane before? on a decoy plane before? >> I didn't say that. I'm just saying >> I didn't say that. I'm just saying >> I didn't say that. I'm just saying that's not the first time we did that's not the first time we did that's not the first time we did something like that before. something like that before. something like that before. >> But your agents were left behind with >> But your agents were left behind with >> But your agents were left behind with other staffers other staffers other staffers on this decoy Air Force One in Turkey. on this decoy Air Force One in Turkey. on this decoy Air Force One in Turkey. Were you you were okay with that? Were you you were okay with that? Were you you were okay with that? >> When you're operating in any protective >> When you're operating in any protective >> When you're operating in any protective detail with the president of the United detail with the president of the United detail with the president of the United States for any president, the priority States for any president, the priority States for any president, the priority is the president. Everyone else, staff, is the president. Everyone else, staff, is the president. Everyone else, staff, agents, media, personnel involved are agents, media, personnel involved are agents, media, personnel involved are not the priority, including our own not the priority, including our own not the priority, including our own personnel. As hard as that may be for personnel. As hard as that may be for personnel. As hard as that may be for some to understand, the mission is to some to understand, the mission is to some to understand, the mission is to protect the president of the United protect the president of the United protect the president of the United States.